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  1. #11
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    Vnolan's Avatar
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    Vyncent Nolan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Going to be interesting to see the dynamic. Do hunters try to get credit for as many people as possible, or do they cut the fat from their server and form up with other servers to get up to 8x the hunts? Between maintenance resets and certain spawn conditions, there are some S ranks that could be trained from one server to the next.

    We've heard of public trackers being messed with, but that was done by players on the server. With players from other servers now having something to gain, will public trackers become useless?

    Lv5 death lol

    How much of a difference will going from 70 to 80 make?
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  2. #12
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Assuming the gear scaling continues at its current rate, we're going to end up with at least double the primary stats we have now by the end of 5.x, which by extension would at minimum double the amount of DPS we output. Everything is going to get melted extremely quickly between that and the new skills.

    As far as trackers go, my hunting group has already created a private one of their own because the trolls on my server were dedicated enough to repeatedly figure out which of multiple public trackers we were using and start messing with them.
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  3. #13
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    Darian_Tepes's Avatar
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    Darian Remilia
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    Zalera
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Not to mention relaying to multiple linkshells. Please note the full details are not out yet on this server visiting thing, however one thing to keep in mind is that we can only have one cross world linkshell as of right now. How am I going to relay to a different servers community efficiently so the players ACTIVELY (I put that word in all caps for a reason.) hunting can also know what was found?
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  4. #14
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I've just realized something awful, which is that people using the hunt sniffing programs are going to be giving their entire data center public knowledge of when/where hunts spawn on their server, meaning we're likely to end up seeing dozens of people swarming S ranks before they've even had time to circulate in linkshells.
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  5. #15
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    ArcticIceDragoon's Avatar
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    Arctic Sapphire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70

    S Ranks Need to be Increased in Difficulty. Period

    I don't care about the people who go afk all over Eorzea, nor others from different servers trying to cross over to participate in another server's hunts. If you make it, great, and if not then too bad.

    However, what I have a problem with is that people are literally creating cross-world linkshells for the sole purpose of forming a snipe team to travel to other servers and snipe their S Ranks! These cross-world linkshells are being promoted in party finder too. This is extremely unfair to the other spawners who put in the time to spawn S Ranks for their server community. With this cross-world play feature being implemented in patch 4.5, it's an open door for snipers to come into your world and take a hunt from you before you (or anyone else on your server) can partake in it ... let alone reach the hunt in time to get even one hit in.

    I am not a fan of these snipers just as much as the next hunter is, and Square needs to implement some way of increasing the difficulty of A Rank and S Rank hunts. Whether it be increasing their level to that of the level cap of the expansion (currently level 70, soon to be level 80 with 5.0), or turning hunts into Notorious Monsters similar to that of Eureka where you need hundreds of people to help take down an enemy. If neither is an option, then either ban cross-world hunting from cross-world play or just don't implement the cross-server play altogether.

    Personal preference: I like the servers being isolated as they are without the cross-world play. If I really wanted to play the game with my friends from other servers then I would just do a world transfer to that server instead.
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    Last edited by ArcticIceDragoon; 12-11-2018 at 12:19 PM.

  6. #16
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    LagsFenris's Avatar
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    Lags Fenris
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    The world visit system has brought out the worst behavior in the community. On Famrit S ranks are being sniped by a small group of wanderers without even letting anyone in the zone know. SE should have made it so only people from the home world can initiate the hunts. The way it is now just leads to frustration, especially when you are the one to spawn an S rank and its pulled before you can get to it.
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  7. #17
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    Minimi Lilimi
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    Lich
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    Miner Lv 60
    Doesn't help that there are tools that tell where S-ranks are without even being close to them, already seeing some notorious players using these tools to quickly reach (and possibly kill) marks they didn't even help spawn. As they don't seem to get banned despite being reported multiple times by different people I guess SE is fine with it.

    I feel that S-rank hunting in it's current state has a huge negative effect on the game with some level of cheating the only way to reliably participate and cross-realm travel only made it worse.

    Would be nice if there was an area wide message telling when a mark has spawned as well as a 3-5 minute immortality to at least give the people who spawned it a guaranteed kill as well as locals a chance to know it exist, even without using external tools.
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  8. #18
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
    World
    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Honestly, I feel like hunts have been stagnant for a while with a tonne of problems even before world visit system. I'd like to see the system overhauled in shadowbringers with everything that they have learned since 2.3 (diadem, Eureka, improvements to the battle system etc.)
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  9. #19
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LagsFenris View Post
    On Famrit S ranks are being sniped by a small group of wanderers without even letting anyone in the zone know.
    A lot of hunts spawn at specific times, while others spawn in wide open areas that can be seen if you position yourself correctly. Wanderers also can't spawn hunts that involve gathering from nodes.

    They wouldn't succeed at it much in a lot of zones if people from Famfrit were there trying to spawn it as well. If nobody native to Famfrit is there trying to spawn it, perhaps they don't care about it enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I'd like to see the system overhauled in shadowbringers
    Besides adding new hunts, I doubt they will overhaul it in 5.0 but may in a 5.x patch.
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  10. #20
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Since xworlds if you don't use outside apps (Horus and Discord) mainly to alert you to the current S rank you are up the creek w/o a paddle. A well known farm group which will remain nameless but everyone on my server group knows who they are, from the xworld server calls out in Discord then by the time our server relays hit IF you are lucky enough to have someone relaying within game, will run and kill the boss within 2-3 min of the original discord notice. This "group" moves from server to server withing the xworlds sucking up every S rank when the timer pops. I have even been attempting to spawn, had a linkshell callout and missed the kill.

    People are famous for messing with timers on these apps so I can't really tell when to attempt to spawn anymore. I'm like: is the timer correct or am I fishing, popping maps or killing fates for a certain boss that is already long dead? Is the timer really correct?? DC messes with my pc so I don't use it nor should I have to utilize ANY outside app when accessing content. I have not seen A ranks as an issue just S ranks but they are making people real cranky and I am weary of players shouting out to USE DC or Horus!, etc. after I don't make it to a kill. I am for xworld Wanderers not receiving credit S ranks period on other servers due to the long timers and forced outside apps needed to attempt content I am paying for.
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    Last edited by Besame; 05-17-2019 at 10:45 PM.
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