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  1. #221
    Player
    Asheilin's Avatar
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    Ahmira Duskbloom
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    Behemoth
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JBee View Post
    Completely agree with this comment.

    There's no reason why a happy medium couldn't have been found, instead of doubling down and limiting a job that so many people have been looking forward to.

    - Make certain abilities not work in dungeons
    - Make certain abilities not work in raids
    - Make certain abilities unable to be used on Bosses
    - Give the job some skills as they level up, with either the skills enhanced/changed or added to via monster encounters
    - Limit the potency of certain abilities in roulettes

    I don't mind something new; frankly if they wanted to add a solo job like this they would have been better off adding the Beastmaster instead.
    The only one I'm iffy on is the "Give the job some skills as they level up, with either the skills enhanced/changed or added to via monster encounters" I think the acquisition for skills is spot on. And I'd add to the first 3 "now work or high potency" because any of the skills what would be "problematic" in XIV should have a high GCD anyway or boss immune to it (ie their lvl 5 death >.> it would either hit hard but not fully -- like in some other ff games-- or boss immune to it.
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    "Welcome to the ranks of the blue mages. However, at this moment you are but an empty vessel--a base creature, weaker than the most ordinary mortal. A blue mage must wrest her strength and vitality from her enemies. Show me your hunger for unrivaled power! This is the only guidance I shall give you."
    ~ Final Fantasy XI Treasures of Aht Urhgan

  2. #222
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    Krokov's Avatar
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    Krokov Reynall
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Which means you get those abilities in duties, instead of randomly gobbling on mobs in the open world.

    That is a good choice, really. Imagine the crowd looking for specific mobs. Pure chaos.
    It will be both open world mobs and duties/trials etc. Gonna be a lot more fighting in the world.
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  3. #223
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    Beckard Arseneau
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    Midgardsormr
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    Red Mage was never going to work as a main job, not without fundamentally betraying what that job is about, which is using damage magic, healing magic, and melee combat in equal measure.
    To add to this, this is something I actually said before Red Mage came out! And I had to eat crow super hard! It may not have been 100% in the spirit of the original job, but it's close enough, and Red Mage is one of my favorite jobs to play in FFXIV. I can respect the opinion of people who are looking forward to a new type of gameplay that comes with a a solo-based BLU, but the idea that Blue Mage could never, under any circumstances work as a regular job in FFXIV is asinine.
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  4. #224
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    TheJarvisMan's Avatar
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    Sym Sol
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheJarvisMan View Post
    Everything I've read leads me to believe this class is going to be isolated to its own content. If that's the case, then they just ruined the one class I've been waiting for above all in this game. Time will tell...
    Jesus, I called my shot here. Wish I was able to take some kind of joy in it.
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  5. #225
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I am incline to at least give them credit for trying to add BLU in a form actually like a BLU as it is something a lot of people wanted.

    However in reality I think it would have been better for them just not to bother. FF 14's gameplay systems aren't really structured in such a way that BLU would work and as such there was never any way for them to be true to what a BLU was and still have it work in the FF 14's role based structure. In the end you come of with something that isn't really what people wanted.

    TLR They were never going to be able to pull off a true BLU because of how FF 14 works so they probably shouldn't have tried.
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  6. #226
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    The Carnivale system is not in the game already, not sure where you think you're seeing it.

    Sucks you're not getting to play a "Blue Mage" that's really just a regular caster with spells named after beast spells in your precious raids. Truly, we are living in the darkest timeline.

    Stop being so narrow minded about how a class can be added to the game. Less stressful that way.
    And here we have this famous hate for raiders again. Do you really think its cool that a class gets implemented that people can't play in the actual game aka. the parts of the game that people really enjoy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  7. #227
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    Luin Vereist
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    How is it 'not content' just because all YOU want to do is raid?
    Raiding is about 10% of the game, people are always clamouring for 'good side content', thats why Diadem and Eureka were disappointing, because peoole want side content, and indeed many still do play Eureka.
    You can't do anything through Duty Finder with it.

    You can do FATEs and Leves with BLU.

    Systems that have been completely abandoned for years now.

    BLU is travel the overworld, collect skills, so that you can travel the overworld. The catch is that the overworld must be interesting, and anybody that has played this game in the past 8 years would know that the XIV overworld is one of the least engaging in MMO history.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheJarvisMan View Post
    Jesus, I called my shot here. Wish I was able to take some kind of joy in it.
    How can anybody take joy in it?

    BLU has been one of the most hyped jobs since xiv legacy's reveal. It was revealed at fanfest. They called it a job. They even showed it in combat.

    And it's not a job. It's a joke, like Lords of Verminion.

    But at least Lords of Verminion has depth.
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    Last edited by Luin; 11-18-2018 at 07:51 PM.

  8. #228
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    Clover_Blake's Avatar
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    Clover Blake
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    Everything they announced seems pretty exciting to me and have elevated a job that I would have leveled to cap and ignored to something that I can see putting a lot of time into.
    I agree with this. I think the concept of Blue Mage is very interesting and different; it's like a game on its own! I initially wasn't really interested, but now I am.
    Besides, we'll get some other jobs for raiding at 5.0, so people at endgame content won't be empty handed.

    Edit: Not sure if I misread, but wasn't Blue Mage allowed to do raids so long as they're in a premade party?
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    Last edited by Clover_Blake; 11-18-2018 at 08:23 PM.
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  9. #229
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    I just dont understand why they couldnt do both systems?

    Give them core skills through quests that can be used in dungeons and raids and then on top of that let them collect more skills for solo content that will be locked out if you are doing recent group content.

    @Clover_Blake: They could do raids with a premade party but only those lvl50 ones since the job is locked at that level for some time and is only raised through 5.x patches. Thus it cant do recent content.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 11-18-2018 at 09:09 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  10. #230
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    Luluna's Avatar
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    Luluna Eve
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    I am looking forward to it. I do understand some people being a bit unsure. I think in time they may be able to let you go in duty etc,as a person who enjoys solo/duo play or something to work on this is perfect for me. I will look forward to collecting my spells and using different combos. It will be also great if they introduce Beastmaster and Puppetmaster in the future. The world is dead everything is tele here and nobody is around. I think it will make the world feel more alive if people are out collecting spells.
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