Thread: Blue mage at patch 4.5

Originally Posted by Burningskull

Not being able to take your favorite Job into the new Expansion or the Content you enjoy the most just because you have other jobs to choose from is not acceptable.

Again, we don't know the rate at which the cap will be increased. If it will reach the cap of other classes at some point (instead of being permanently lower) then you will be able to do that content just as well. At that point, this is nothing but a "beta" with the actual release being later.

Seriously. You're potentially complaining about getting a "demo" before the full release, saying that they shouldn't release it and that you wanted to wait for the full release.

Again, we DO NOT KNOW how it will progress yet. It will progress "throughout patches", not expansions, so the level cap will be changed between expansions unlike it is for other jobs. This may be simply due to the volume of workload required for getting those skills, making them, putting up flags for the classes and such. This job DOES take more to design than normal class does, after all, while it still DOES get the same stuff as a normal class design-wise.


On a different note...are you sure it would be your favorite job if it was made to match FFXIV?! I think there would be a very high chance that you'd say "Meh, this tries to look like Blue Mage, but it's not. Black mage deals more damage anyway so whatever.". Not saying you would, of course, but it is a fact that the normal classes are a hit-or-miss. I for example dislike Black Mage even though I tend to play this sort of classes. I hate Bard as well, even though the mobile ranged class is attractive to me. And I really hate melee, even though those were my favorite in other MMO's. So yeah.

Originally Posted by KDSilver

I hardly see how BLU couldn't have both aspects on the game.

So, basically, you want a gimped version of the Blue Mage specifically made and balanced to fit into normal party gameplay? In short, you want a boring mage that has nothing to do with BLU except funny animations for its skills, while ALSO having a solo content designed exclusively for that job? That'd be a very poor attempt at forcing BLU to be what it's not.

Blue mage is about learning abilities from monsters, and using these abilities into battle, while choosing what is the most effective against what you are fightning. None of these aspects can translate well into the current multiplayer battle content of the game. If you were to force it to fit "normal play", you wouldn't have monster learned abilities, you'd have fixed skills and fixed rotation. You wouldn't have monster weaknesses to play with like you will in the Carnival. None of that is the kind of BLU I would like to play in normal party settings.

BLU is wild. It's special and weird. Trying to force it into being "normal" would end up in a very poor result.
Just enjoy it being a side content thing. As it's the best they could do with it.

Originally Posted by Burningskull

Not being able to take your favorite Job into the new Expansion or the Content you enjoy the most just because you have other jobs to choose from is not acceptable.

Yeah I cant imagine people who were waiting up to five years to make Blue Mage their main class just to find out this is what we are getting.

[QUOTE=KisaiTenshi;4820360]Level 5 death would work against EVERY end-game boss because every endgame boss is level 50, 60 or 70.

Or they could easily be immune. Just like MAJORITY of FF bosses who legit imuned to death such as fate boss

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Level 5 death would work against EVERY end-game boss because every endgame boss is level 50, 60 or 70.

Or they could easily be immune.

I mean death is already in Eureka and NM's are immune to it.

Originally Posted by Rita1989

Yeah I cant imagine people who were waiting up to five years to make Blue Mage their main class just to find out this is what we are getting.

People who waited 5 years already knew 4 years ago what it'd be like, as it turned out to be EXACTLY what Yoshida said during a live letter when talking about how they'd implement it.

If they just found out today and had other expectations and hype, then they have only themselves to blame.

Silver lining for DPS players: With BLU being a limited gimmick job, maybe the gunblade class stands a better chance to be a DPS class, instead of a tank?

It sounds like BLU will only have it's level cap increased in 5-10 level increments (twice an expansion life cycle if 5 increments or once for 10) and permanently stay at least 5-10 levels behind normal jobs. This is to prevent premades from bringing OP BLUs into current extreme, savage content. So we will probably see BLU kept at 60-65 until Shadowbringers is released, in which the level cap will be increased to 70. Then in let's say in patch 5.25, BLU will be increased to 75. Just a theory.

Blue mage was never going to work as a main job, not without fundamentally betraying what that job is about, which is learning abilities from monsters. This sounds like something fun to do while we wait for the expansion. This is at least something different outside of the expected content in a patch, The way they announced it could have been better, it should have been made clear from the start this was not a normal job, but I don't have a problem with the content itself.

Originally Posted by Oridan

Silver lining for DPS players: With BLU being a limited gimmick job, maybe the gunblade class stands a better chance to be a DPS class, instead of a tank?

I still hope not. We got 2 DPS last time. We need a healer and a tank this time.