Blue mage at patch 4.5

**RezPls** · 11-18-2018 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I thought people wanted new and different content? NO? Huh..

Its now a job that is completely different from any other job. Which is what i thought people wanted.

Defending terrible job and game design in 2018

**Berethos** · 11-18-2018 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by RezPls

Defending terrible job and game design in 2018

Defining "terrible" job and game design in 2018 based solely upon whether or not you like it.

**RezPls** · 11-18-2018 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Berethos

Defining "terrible" job and game design in 2018 based solely upon whether or not you like it.

Heck ya, i love leveling via FATES and using it for a 1v1 system that's already present in the game.

Whiteknights out hard in this.

**Berethos** · 11-18-2018 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by RezPls

Heck ya, i love leveling via FATES and using it for a 1v1 system that's already present in the game.

Whiteknights out hard in this.

The Carnivale system is not in the game already, not sure where you think you're seeing it.

Sucks you're not getting to play a "Blue Mage" that's really just a regular caster with spells named after beast spells in your precious raids. Truly, we are living in the darkest timeline.

Stop being so narrow minded about how a class can be added to the game. Less stressful that way.

**RezPls** · 11-18-2018 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Berethos

The Carnivale system is not in the game already, not sure where you think you're seeing it.

Sucks you're not getting to play a "Blue Mage" that's really just a regular caster with spells named after beast spells in your precious raids. Truly, we are living in the darkest timeline.

Stop being so narrow minded about how a class can be added to the game. Less stressful that way.

Yes, we definitely want to play a job from 1 to 50 for a minigame.

**Berethos** · 11-18-2018 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by RezPls

Yes, we definitely want to play a job from 1 to 50 for a minigame.

If it's fun with solid rewards, and keeps getting updated?

Sure.

Sorry you won't get to play your Black Mage with different spell names in raids, but there's nothing wrong with experimenting with implementing classes like this. Lighten up, chief.

**Awful** · 11-18-2018 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Berethos

The Carnivale system is not in the game already, not sure where you think you're seeing it.

Sucks you're not getting to play a "Blue Mage" that's really just a regular caster with spells named after beast spells in your precious raids. Truly, we are living in the darkest timeline.

Stop being so narrow minded about how a class can be added to the game. Less stressful that way.

Have you forgotten this is an MMO? People wanted to play BLU with their friends and do endgame content but they're limited the devs are literally saying "this is how you're playing the game our way!" not to mention leveling is grinding more mobs and FATEs might as well just sit in Eureka oh wait you can't since it's Elvl-oops. My friend really wanted BLU same as everyone else only to be told here's BLU however you can't do anything, you're incapable of doing anything in a group, you're a solo class and gimmicky with RNG is that good design? It's not.

People aren't being narrow minded they're voicing their complaints and how disappointed they are and don't agree while you're saying "well that sucks for you" it does, this Fanfest was pretty underwhelming and that doesn't bode well for the expansion if this is a large chunk of the rest of the rock that we're getting.

**kikix12** · 11-18-2018 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Awful

Have you forgotten this is an MMO?

People sometimes want to play in MMO's solo...Oh, the horror! And before you respond to "Then it's the wrong game for you." should we vote for the removal of all "campaigns" in strategy games, fighting games or racing games? Maybe remove the career from FIFA. These games are designed for playing with other people. But since not everyone wants (or can) play with others, they have their single-player modes intact since the beginning.

Originally Posted by Awful

HMy friend really wanted BLU same as everyone else only to be told here's BLU however you can't do anything, you're incapable of doing anything in a group, you're a solo class and gimmicky with RNG is that good design?

Clearly you didn't watch the live letter...or you didn't pay attention.

You can do almost all the content that any other job can, in party or solo. The only ones you CANNOT do are PvP and Deep Dungeon.
Roulettes are not content, they are matchmaking method. Duty finder is not content, it's matchmaking method. As a Blue Mage you cannot use matchmaking methods, you need to make a party the old-fashioned way. That's all. You can do all the content in much the same way, just with people that are your friends. If anything, this SUPPORTS the MMO concept of being outgoing and making friends. Because, unlike in Duty Finder, you actually CHOOSE the people you play with.

So get your facts straight before complaining.

That being said, I would wish for it to be possible to use these matchmaking methods as well. However! That is not necessarily impossible going forward. It is possible that they will work on it, find the skills that do not break the game, compile them as sort of "level progression", present it to the player and say "At your level, if you have these skills, you can queue in a duty finder. Your actions will be switched to these skills without giving you the option to customize.". It is still possible going forward.

It is an experiment. One that does have a rough start, but that does have potential. The fact that you can take those overpowered skills into party content with an actual party shows that they are willing to build upon it which is more than people had thought.

**Shirolumi** · 11-18-2018 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by kikix12

You can do almost all the content that any other job can, in party or solo. The only ones you CANNOT do are PvP and Deep Dungeon.
Roulettes are not content, they are matchmaking method. Duty finder is not content, it's matchmaking method. As a Blue Mage you cannot use matchmaking methods, you need to make a party the old-fashioned way. That's all. You can do all the content in much the same way, just with people that are your friends. If anything, this SUPPORTS the MMO concept of being outgoing and making friends. Because, unlike in Duty Finder, you actually CHOOSE the people you play with.

So get your facts straight before complaining.

Well tbf, you won't be able to play Shadowbringers with BLU... :/

**Awful** · 11-18-2018 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by kikix12

So get your facts straight before complaining.

Oh boy so yeah I didn't take into consideration that you can premade a group that I forgot to add and overlooked it my bad however, what if the person is brand new and chose BLU as their leveling class since Yoshi P said you can play it with just ARR but the person has no friends. That means the person can't play the way they want to by grouping with people and letting the game naturally take their course so they get a feel of the class in a group setting since the player won't know about PF or anything unless they researched the class. Not to mention the trust system all the way through leveling, again is not in a player party it's NPCs and yourself with 0 player interaction, I have no issue with solo play at all I really don't but when you don't actively seek interaction and don't have premades then how are you supposed to get dungeons done? That's an issue.

Another issue is how BLU levels it's open world grinding mobs and FATEs which is nothing unique since many people are doing Eureka grinding artificial EXP for their Elvl for relics and such so already this is nothing new and innovating it just creates more emphasis on the Trust system which is more grinding and hand holding which we have enough in this game. If a player levels like that the whole way, then finally gets to endgame as a BLU then the endgame content for them they can't do since they're regulated to just BLU trials and premades with friends or FC mates if they have them which doesn't fly the player didn't need to do that until now so it's a huge slap in the face.

Originally Posted by Burningskull

Not being able to take your favorite Job into the new Expansion or the Content you enjoy the most just because you have other jobs to choose from is not acceptable.

^ this is another great point here who beat me to the punch what if I want to play BLU? I can't. I don't have that choice I have to play other classes because BLU isn't available at this time to go through the MSQ so even if the player does level BLU you can't do the newest things thus making you level an alt or another class that you don't enjoy who has a different playstyle. It's bad design you should be able to play as any class as you want despite the content it shouldn't be a "limited job" they said BLU is OP but why make something so OP that you refuse to balance around current content? They can scale the abilities around the class instead of making it this Godlike class that can do anything but nothing at the same time.

This may be an experiment but already I'm dreading it giving players the lack of direction only to sidewind them at the end saying "you can't play the newest content please play another class" is so bad it's like if I played a Death Knight in WoW and all I could do was level with my undead NPCs and only kill mobs it's terrible. SE keeps putting more and more limitations on their game and it's going in a bad direction where that freedom of choice for players is taken from them when they have a carrot on the stick which is BLU only to be told they can't play with non-limited classes.

Originally Posted by kikix12

You need to finish the entire story from A Realm Reborn. It cannot be taken as your starting class.

Edited as you posted that since you can't start off as BLU.

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