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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    I'm almost certain BLU won't be able to do much group content at all^^'

    I think it's gonna be more of a skill collector minigame disguising as a job, where you can learn almost all of the skills monsters throw at you, but can only use them in the overworld/BLU specific duties.

    Why? Because so far, every system the devs have put out has been fairly underwhelming compared to what people thought it would be. And that would be adequately underwhelming.
    I really hope its not the case but I fear that Blue Mage will just be a job with Logos actions but instead of finding them and creating them you have to bash x amount of monsters to get them.

    Maybe such a Blue mage would be their way to fix the empty overworld..by having a job that only can do stuff on the maps and not in the instances...I really hope this is wrong.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 11-18-2018 at 06:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I really hope its not the case but I fear that Blue Mage will just be a job with Logos actions but instead of finding them and creating them you have to bash x amount of monsters to get them.

    Maybe such a Blue mage would be their way to fix the empty overworld..by having a job that only can do stuff on the maps and not in the instances...I really hope this is wrong.
    But then why would we even bother being out in the empty overworld to collect skills we can't use anywhere else? Such a pointless concept if that's what they're going to do.
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    Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once, and you'll suck forever.

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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    We will find out...but I sincerely doubt SE will break from the norms we currently have in place creating a entirely new system for one job. Maybe if they retroactively did so for all but again...I have doubts.
    The way they announced it was as a new type of job called a "Limited Job", rather than announcing it as being limited on release with the implication that it wont always be limited.
    Youd think if the latter was the case, they wouldn't hesitate to make it clear.

    Rather it seems that "Limited" in this context doesn't refer to its level cap, but to what it can do, its limitations.

    Leads me to believe you wont be able to queue for duties with it as it wont fit into the role system. Undersized parties maybe, but otherwise is an entirely seperate way to play the game, and thats how theyre able to make it so different from other jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    This is my feeling. Usually when we get promised "new, unheard of content" we get Eureka: Diadem 3.0 or crafting turn ins, which was literally the equivalent of Rowena in bulk, limited times. They have got to learn that "different" needs to be mechanically different, not just "the same thing with a different skin".

    As for getting "more than only 11 skills"? You'll get a hunt log that has 10-20 mobs in it and you'll kill those to get a set number of skills.

    I'd love to be wrong, but as much as I love the game, as much as I don't mind the same old thing, I don't listen when they promise "new and exciting".
    If they can add 50 skills to the Logos system, they can do the same for BLU.
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    Of those 50 logos actions, only about 12 are actually "new".
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    To me it just doesn't make any sense in developing and revealing a fan-favorite, call it a job, show it doing stuff in combat, and then have it *not* be a job.

    Doesn't matter what you call it at that point. If it can't raid, it's not a job, and it's not content. At that point, it's a joke. No better than the Wind-Up Red Mage's description.

    What's most disappointing is that this is a real possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luin View Post
    Of those 50 logos actions, only about 12 are actually "new".
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    To me it just doesn't make any sense in developing and revealing a fan-favorite, call it a job, show it doing stuff in combat, and then have it *not* be a job.

    Doesn't matter what you call it at that point. If it can't raid, it's not a job, and it's not content. At that point, it's a joke. No better than the Wind-Up Red Mage's description.

    What's most disappointing is that this is a real possibility.
    How is it 'not content' just because all YOU want to do is raid?
    Raiding is about 10% of the game, people are always clamouring for 'good side content', thats why Diadem and Eureka were disappointing, because peoole want side content, and indeed many still do play Eureka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    How is it 'not content' just because all YOU want to do is raid?
    Raiding is about 10% of the game, people are always clamouring for 'good side content', thats why Diadem and Eureka were disappointing, because peoole want side content, and indeed many still do play Eureka.
    You can't do anything through Duty Finder with it.

    You can do FATEs and Leves with BLU.

    Systems that have been completely abandoned for years now.

    BLU is travel the overworld, collect skills, so that you can travel the overworld. The catch is that the overworld must be interesting, and anybody that has played this game in the past 8 years would know that the XIV overworld is one of the least engaging in MMO history.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheJarvisMan View Post
    Jesus, I called my shot here. Wish I was able to take some kind of joy in it.
    How can anybody take joy in it?

    BLU has been one of the most hyped jobs since xiv legacy's reveal. It was revealed at fanfest. They called it a job. They even showed it in combat.

    And it's not a job. It's a joke, like Lords of Verminion.

    But at least Lords of Verminion has depth.
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    Last edited by Luin; 11-18-2018 at 07:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanntis View Post
    But then why would we even bother being out in the empty overworld to collect skills we can't use anywhere else? Such a pointless concept if that's what they're going to do.
    Why raid just to obtain equipment that you wont use anywhere other than in raids?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Why raid just to obtain equipment that you wont use anywhere other than in raids?
    Except that my comment applied to ALL group content, not just raids. Raids might be whatever % you wish it to be, but the majority of the game is group/party content, and as such I'd like to be able to take the job to use in most of the game's content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Why raid just to obtain equipment that you wont use anywhere other than in raids?
    Because it's usable outside of raids too, and will be arguably a requirement for the next tier of raid.
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