Thread: Blue mage at patch 4.5

Originally Posted by Krokov

I can't see them making this a solo only job, maybe at first while leveling and so on but at cap and later levels it would make no sense. Maybe making it versatile solo or grouping up.

It doesn't seem like it would be "solo only" as in you can't party ever, but because the way the skills are aquired, you likely won't be able to do any DF party content without having the respective tank/healer/dps skills unlocked for the role queued as. Like it would kinda suck to get a BLU in a raid who only unlocked one skill, and it's equivalent to casting Stone I/II/III/IV.

Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck

3. BLU will have a similar quest chain as every other job: Every 5 until 50. One ever 2 levels 50-60. One every 3 60-70 so one so forth.

They literally, specifically, said that Blue Mage won't get any skills at all just from leveling. Since most skills are gotten from leveling, not class quests, then if they did get skills only from their job quests they would have what...11 skills in total?!

Not to mention that they said we will be surprised at how many actions they can learn. So rather than less, they are likely to have MORE skills than any other class. Also it's pointless to focus on the "actions they can learn" part if they are acquired as quest rewards, not actually learned.

Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck

Remember Kiki, in 4.5 you will be leveling to a max 50 and acquire skills like every other job in the current system of FF14. Like DRK, AST, MCH had a number of skills preset when you start at 30 and RDM/SAM at 50...it is incredibly safe to assume the same will happen to BLU. They are only now going a different way...instead of handing them out, they are making to which you acquire them via normal leveling. Why? It is simple...SE is in this for $ and they know BLU is a incredibly popular job in the FF universe. They are more than likely doing it this way to keep people subbed, which to me is completely reasonable.

Sorry, but this will not be the BLU you may expect if you played FF11 or any in the past that had BLU. Like RDM, we will see a variation of BLU in respects to FF14.

They've already indicated that it is going to be different to other jobs and separate from them and is the first "limited job", but the latter is pretty ambiguous. So I don't think applying the same logic as the existing job system works. Whilst I am not expecting FFXI copy pasta, but there are some core fundamentals they adhere to in setting up jobs. For example they were clever with RDM because they managed to mix melee skills, magic spells and healing spells into the job and make them all useful to appeal to it's fast casting jack of all trades. But they have previously indicated the challenges of handling Blue Mage. However, we should learn more today.

Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck

Remember Kiki, in 4.5 you will be leveling to a max 50 and acquire skills like every other job in the current system of FF14.

No...Like I just said, THEY are the ones that said there will be no skills acquired from leveling. You're saying something directly opposite of what they did. And I'm willing to bet that seeing as they will talk more about Blue Mage and about how hard it is to learn the skills of a Blue Mage (yes, they did say this as well, that it's actually going to be difficult in some manner), that they wouldn't lie to keep a secret for literally one day.

Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck

Like DRK, AST, MCH had a number of skills preset when you start at 30 and RDM/SAM at 50...

Blue Mage starts at lvl1. There is no assumption to be had there. It is going to start from level one and be leveled to fifty from there. It was on the screen with information given. So they will have no pre-leveled skills either. Only that water-like attack spell that the Blue Mage used to attack with in that teaser.

I'm almost certain BLU won't be able to do much group content at all^^'

I think it's gonna be more of a skill collector minigame disguising as a job, where you can learn almost all of the skills monsters throw at you, but can only use them in the overworld/BLU specific duties.

Why? Because so far, every system the devs have put out has been fairly underwhelming compared to what people thought it would be. And that would be adequately underwhelming.

Originally Posted by Zojha

I'm almost certain BLU won't be able to do much group content at all^^'

I think it's gonna be more of a skill collector minigame disguising as a job, where you can learn almost all of the skills monsters throw at you, but can only use them in the overworld/BLU specific duties.

Why? Because so far, every system the devs have put out has been fairly underwhelming compared to what people thought it would be. And that would be adequately underwhelming.

I'd say you're being pessimistic if I didn't agree with you. That is my main worry, that it is battle side-content, which has a poor track record. They are often good concepts, but delivered in an underwhelming way.