Granted the times of FF11 are gone but common

[dburton]

I have been a fan of FF for life, and I just like everyone else I so miss the days of time past. But with step kids, new baby's, wife, dog, running my own business were does all the time go in a day right.

It just seems the grind is a bit to bland though on 15. I left for a lil bit, granted but when my father passed this year myself and my brothers decided to give 15 a run again. So I came back, caught up on story line. Ok, got DRG weapon to stage 4 relic "Old School." Level BLM to 50, then WAR, DRK, ARM to 70. Then LTH to I think 60ish, Tried the new class's, went for Glams, got WAR weapon relic to stage right before final stage. Started DRG, and DRK relic.

Were is the end game though, not the same handful of daily or weekly raids. Saving up a couple tokens every week to get a piece of Ilvl 380 gear, not to mention the 10 times I have to tank the same raid to get a spring or log roll. And that's after the good players rage quit after 2 wipes because a new raider is in the mix, complete waste of 20 minutes "only if your a tank" because if your a dps, trying to level a new job or raid, its horrible. I waited in a Q for 30 plus minutes to do a level 35 dungeon. . . ... common square enix that's crap. Q's are terrible, if your not a healer or tank with all the employee's that work for Square Enix, your telling me you couldn't have come up with dungeons for dps only. Exp even in small amounts.

You can't try and solo a dungeon at 70 that's 35 WTF, I can see the lvl match if your in a party but why cant you at least try and level a job for less exp that 15 levels or so under you, or collect gear for another job you want to level solo.

Better relic's that time to complete, not a couple weeks. A challenge and something to look forward to, something to show off. I loved my BLM on FF11, I ran a guild. Ya, Im waiting for next patch to see if its going to be worth even keeping a membership.

How about some personal touch's on your play style to. I mean lol, common. . ...

Square Enix "here's the best rotation, DO IT, or your dps sucks"
Anyone who played the older one's, how many skill chains could go down, then a magic burst if your element was right, or even a BLU could mb.

I mean don't get me wrong, I think 15 is the best online MMO. 15 has some great challenge. But were is the open world, were are the end game items that personalize your character.

How about some NM's, I mean give us a reason to go wonder around outside of town, sitting around AFK, wondering ... hummmmm do I cancel my membership this month.

I am hoping to see great things from the new patch's to come, and the game has a lot of great things but if your wanting a bigger long term base you have to give the people something to stay for, and not well I guess I could level every class to 70 because half the gear is for every class anyway and I already have it.

And for anyone who may read this, sorry about typo's.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

You can't try and solo a dungeon at 70 that's 35 WTF, I can see the lvl match if your in a party but why cant you at least try and level a job for less exp that 15 levels or so under you, or collect gear for another job you want to level solo.

You mean "Undersized Party"? That's been a thing for years.

http://www.vgamerz.com/everything-yo...tion-in-ffxiv/

It's a bit out of date, but the basics haven't changed. You get all the chest loot automatically, but you don't gain any exp or items dropped by mobs.

[dburton]

You mean "Undersized Party"? That's been a thing for years.

http://www.vgamerz.com/everything-yo...tion-in-ffxiv/

It's a bit out of date, but the basics haven't changed. You get all the chest loot automatically, but you don't gain any exp or items dropped by mobs.

Thanks JohnSpawnVFX

[Gemina]

Were is the end game though, not the same handful of daily or weekly raids. Saving up a couple tokens every week to get a piece of Ilvl 380 gear, not to mention the 10 times I have to tank the same raid to get a spring or log roll. And that's after the good players rage quit after 2 wipes because a new raider is in the mix, complete waste of 20 minutes "only if your a tank" because if your a dps, trying to level a new job or raid, its horrible. I waited in a Q for 30 plus minutes to do a level 35 dungeon. . . ... common square enix that's crap. Q's are terrible, if your not a healer or tank with all the employee's that work for Square Enix, your telling me you couldn't have come up with dungeons for dps only. Exp even in small amounts.

I quite XI when 75 was the level cap, and this kind of frustration was not uncommon for XI either. Same can be said for the endgame of other mmos. And PoTD is pretty much the go to for early DPS leveling for those who can't be bothered with standard dungeon queues.

I have a lot of memories with XI as well. It was my first MMO along with TONS of other players who played nothing but console games their whole lives. And this is a big factor for the ever-elusive experiences that can no longer be had. We're older now. A lot of us were still in school back then still under the responsibility of our parents, and now some of us have families and homes of our own. Times change. Games change.

Ultimately, I had to put those fond memories inside of a psychological box in order to not impede my enjoyment playing FFXIV or other games of interest. I can develop extremely strong emotional attachments that are extremely difficult to let go. However, if/when I do, I set it adrift. A door that vanishes once you walk through it.

[Brightamethyst]

your telling me you couldn't have come up with dungeons for dps only. Exp even in small amounts.

Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High already exist. Fast queues and decent exp, no tanks or healers required.

[Connor]

This is 14

im sorry I had to

Generally agree with what you’re saying, as others have said PotD and Heaven-on-High are can be done with 4 DPS.

[Vidu]

- PotD/HoH are dungeons that can be done with DPS-only, they can be done solo aswell (even though that is a challenge, depending on the floors and your job)
- Unsynching dungeons is a thing, however the mobs will not give you any exp if you do though
- roulettes like leveling roulette and alliance roulette give tones of exp though (and the quues are usually fast-ish. Unless you're playing at ungodly hours. In which case you should check and see if you cant transfer to a server that fits your hours better)
- daily beast tribe quests are another way to level up dps - just do the quests in between queues
- daily huntbills from your GC (til level 50), The Forgotten Knight in Ishgard (til level 60) or in Rhalgrs Reach/Kugane (til level 70)


- NMs are a thing - either in the form of hunts (you can join hunt-ls and try and help spawn S-ranks) or in Eureka, a new instance zone for up to 144 that you can access from Kugane. Its somehow FFXI-insipred, so you might like it (even if I dont blame you if you dont)

...in regards to endgame: You dont have any of the Ex-primal mounts, nor any raid-related stuff. You obviously dont need to do those things if you dont feel like it, but that is the endgame in FFXIV. An endgame you can ignore if it isnt to your taste, but its the endgame this game offers.
I dont mean this in a rude way, but FFXI-nostalgia always makes me want to say: This isnt FFXI. It is a different game, it is intended to be a different game and if you dont like that, if you dont like the general structure of the game (aka for example more instances than open world stuff) thats okay! But dont expect this game to change some basic principles because you'd like FFXI 2.0 - this is not intended to be FFXI 2.0; this is FFXIV. (Seriously, I loved the gameplay of FFX, but I didnt wrote an angry letter to SE when FFXII worked differently - its okay, they're different games)

Your crafter isnt geared, you dont have any beast tribe mounts (so you probably havent done the beast tribe dailies), you're probably missing out on maps, you can get some PvP-mounts, raid, EX-primals, get other classes up to 70 (remember: beast tribes, PotD and HoH are your friends!)... I'm most likely missing a lot of stuff right now - if that content isnt to your liking, thats okay and you may cancel your sub to find a game that suits your needs better, I'm sure they're out there!
And yes the content in FFXIV has been a bit thin lately - I've done most of the stuff I've listed for you to pick and choose something from that might fit your taste and now I dont have much to do anymore, so its not like I dont get the complain.
But if you dont like most fo the content a game has to offer and would like the game to change basic things - like adding more open world content in a game thats not really suited for that (think about all the lag during big FATEs and how "engaging" those open world bosses are... sorry, FFXIV: ARR/HW/SB isnt FFXIV 2.0 or FFXI 2.0 but a different game, without a heavy focus on the open world) - you might actually better off with finding a game thats a better fit for you.
But give this one a decent go first and try all the content it has to offer!
Just sitting in a town, wondering if you wanna quit isnt really getting you anywhere - after all you do need to venture out of that town! Wether thats to Kugane to enter Eureka, into one of the Beast Tribe zones, or simply into an instance by for example opening the PF and joining an Ex-primal-group.
There is content in this game, you just need to look for it - and if you dont like what you see... yes, you should maybe just quit then.

I would like to see more and new and engaging content for FFXIV aswell - but I dont want this game to turn into FFXI 2.0, and there was also a reason that FFXIV 1.0 failed so I dont want the game to return to that either.
I get that people miss their good old days, but I doubt that they were really that good... I've never played FFXI but I couldnt help but wonder: OP is complaining about 20-minute long queues... from all that I've heard from FFXI you could end up sitting around for 2 hours with nothing really happening or you relied so heavly on friends/other people that playing the game (or at least certain parts of it) alone would have been impossible. Maybe I've been reading to much into the "missing FFXI-thing", but I'm pretty sure that playing that with a baby would be a lot more difficult than playing FFXIV with a baby...

But long story short: Yes, more content please, but more content that fits this game and isnt actually meant for FFXI 2.0.
And for the OP: Go and actually look at all the content that is available to you right now! If you realise that its not content you wanna play, go look for that content elsewhere.

[Doki]

You do not need to look much further at FFXI to see where SE will go with this game. Less and less development, more "creative" re-use of assets with new gimmick systems with the promise of 5 more item levels at the end of the stick.

[Dzian]

I personally always find it amusing when people consider levelling other jobs "end game content"... when players says there's no contnet or nothing to do often get greeted with well your crafters arent 70 yet nor is your drg or insert job here....

Like the OP though i Miss the days of XI definitely but i also find it amusing when people say they don't have time for it. there were times where i would quite literally only play XI 2 a nights a week and still be able to participate in everything my LS did. einherjar limbus. dynamis sky. znms.. etc etc. and yeah ok sometimes it took you 40-50 minutes to get a party invite but thats really no different than waiting 40-50 minutes for a duty finder queue to pop.

one of the better things with XI though was things didnt feel so rushed. you could quite literally do what you wanted when you wanted where you could drop sky for a couple of weeks to focus on nyzul or salvage instead.. where as in XIV it's MUST DO THIS NOWWWWW or i wont get my weekly drop... and if i dont get my weekly drop ll fallllll behind... in many ways this game is even more time demanding than XI was because of that...

take a 2 week vacation here and your gonna be behind when you come back. take a 2 week vacation in XI and you were still with the rest of your group...

[Brightamethyst]

Like the OP though i Miss the days of XI definitely but i also find it amusing when people say they don't have time for it. there were times where i would quite literally only play XI 2 a nights a week and still be able to participate in everything my LS did. einherjar limbus. dynamis sky. znms.. etc etc.

That's not what people usually mean when they talk about XI's time commitment. It's more about how everything... took... so... damn... long... YEARs of dynamis and sky and Limbus, waiting hours, or even days for a party, spending hours in said party grinding mobs, waiting for an airship, waiting for the next game day, or JP midnight, or for another 5 people to answer your mission shout... In 2004 I was 22 and had all the free time in the world for that nonsense. Today at 36, not so much.