Quote Originally Posted by typhlo View Post
So that's my thoughts, I hope you understand a little better why people might want to start at level 1, even if you disagree with some or all of what I've said.
I don't think anyone disagrees but ultimately that too is up to you and how you approach content. If you want to avoid the clutter and massive amount of icons on your hotbar, you can just drag them all off and then sit calmly with each individual skill in your actions menu and slowly drag them to your hotbar. It's exactly the same process only you don't need to level up twice in between moving to the next skill.
There's really no need to force such a massive change on everyone else because people can't find workarounds the existing system.

And to that I'll counter-point. RDM and SAM were a delight for me because they were the first time ever you got to play a job the way it was meant to be played. Sure, it wasn't their full kit and there were additional systems and shticks added in the later levels, but from the moment you picked up either of those jobs you had a completed product in your hand. You could perform at least that well, you got a much better feel for the job right off the bat, and you could start training without learning all sorts of bad habits you'd later have to unlearn (DRG and spamming that one skill instead of actually using their combos comes to mind). It's also a lot easier to figure out whether or not you like how a job feels like this because you get a feel for their basic playstyle immediately instead of having to invest hours into leveling it up, only to decide you don't like it (HW's bow-mage is a good example, for the duration it was a bow-mage in).

And then there's the fact that they built the lore for those jobs specifically to explain why you suddenly know everything you know. Which was a nice touch.

Would I object to having level-reset items for people who do enjoy the leveling process? No. They could even lock it behind achievement points if they ever get around to developing a system like that. But I think we're much better off the way we are now.