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  1. 11-13-2018 06:57 PM #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    I don't think it's understood what OP is actually asking for. They want to be to start a new job (from lvl 1) and then get the full amount of experience to take it from lvl 1 to max level without starting half way there (like at 30 for HW and 50 for SB). It's not about being low level in a dungeon, but they just want to get the most out of the leveling experience.
    I think it's very well understood. What is probably not understood is why someone wouldn't be ok with doing the same things he would do as if starting from level 1. He can just pretend that he's lvl 1 instead of lvl 50/60 and spam a low level dungeon a few times before moving to the next one. This way he can still "get the most out" of the levelling experience.

    Fact: most people don't like this game's levelling experience. The combat system starts being interesting close to level cap. It already was bad enough in ARR...but after SB pruning it's just painful. Again, if he likes it, he's free to experience it...just by running low level stuff. But most sane people won't do that.
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  2. 11-13-2018 07:41 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
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    That's really not the same at all, still don't think you understand. If i want to start a job from lvl 1 and gain all the experience up to lvl 80, that's what I want to do (or OP). Being level 50/60 and syncing down to a low level is not the same at all because you are not getting the gaining the same amount of experience as half of it has already been handed to you.

    Fact: most people don't like this game's levelling experience.
    Opinions are not facts. Some players like the leveling experience or want to get the most of it, that's all.
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  3. 11-13-2018 08:21 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    That's really not the same at all, still don't think you understand. If i want to start a job from lvl 1 and gain all the experience up to lvl 80, that's what I want to do (or OP). Being level 50/60 and syncing down to a low level is not the same at all because you are not getting the gaining the same amount of experience as half of it has already been handed to you.



    Opinions are not facts. Some players like the leveling experience or want to get the most of it, that's all.
    I guess you believe that seeing the exp bar fill has come kind of intrinsic utility and provide satisfaction in itself. I personally think that's not the case, and I don't see how any rational person could think that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Opinions are not facts.
    Saying what the prevalent opinion is is not an opinion. You can make a survey asking people to state whether they like levelling in this game or not. If 80% of the participants answer that they do not like it, saying that most players don't like levelling is a fact, not an opinion. And since for many years now I've seen players complaining about the levelling experience in the game both on these forums and on reddit (and I saw virtually noone praising it), I'm pretty sure that players generally dislike levelling in ffxiv is a fact.
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  4. 11-13-2018 08:39 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
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    What people like and dislike about this game is not for you to disregard them by saying they are "not rational" or by forcing opinion on to others. People tend to complain more about things that compliment then, but hey if you want to follow every single thing you read online then that's up to you.

    OP wanted an option to pick their starting level, that's all. Doesn't effect anyone negatively if they don't want to use it. I'm not really going to talk to a wall anymore so let's agree to disagree and move on.
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  5. 11-13-2018 09:04 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    OP wanted an option to pick their starting level, that's all. Doesn't effect anyone negatively if they don't want to use it. I'm not really going to talk to a wall anymore so let's agree to disagree and move on.
    Many players would like more options. More options to obtain the relic weapon without having to enter that hot mess that is called eureka, for instance. Or the option to have a personal house.
    The option to decide the starting level of a job is so low on the priority list that it's not even worth considering, especially when the player CAN do low level content if he so wishes and therefore create his own "levelling experience" that would be virtually identical to the scenario of starting from lvl 1.
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