Let Me Level up in 5.0

**Syrus718** · 11-13-2018 04:12 AM

Now that SE has done away with the class and cross-role systems, Which I feel was a mistake because I enjoyed them Both; we are left with Jobs and the hopefully soon to be departing role System. But If anyone is like me I enjoy playing multiple Jobs and with that gearing plus leveling them up while I play through content.
5.0 is on the Horizon so Surely new jobs are expected as well But my gripe comes with the level we start these new jobs at. Nin entered ARR essentially as a Rogue at lvl10 (40 levels below Max) HW introduced the Dark knight, Astrologan and Machinist Lvl30 (30 Below) and Sb Brought Red mage And Samurai at Lvl50(20 levels Below Max). Why can't we have the option to start new jobs at level 1? It would repopulate PvE areas, Lower level dungeons outside of roulettes, make squadrons and your Chocobo useful again, add more job quest and could even coincide with the much talked about ability to replay MSQ and instances.>
Some naysayers will counter with I just wanna play the new jobs in new content... Yeah but then what? You Maxed Out In 2 to 3 days, threw on your highest gear from a similar role and now your back into the endgame grind of completing weekly's and complaining about having no content to do until the next patch releases. It may not be for everyone but let me level up.

**Tlachtga** · 11-13-2018 05:00 AM

Because leveling jobs in this game is awful, and it'll only get bearable once we're allowed to keep our learned skills when lvl synced down. Currently, most of the jobs are borderline unplayable when below 70. No one wants to run through Sastasha or Copperbell with literally 4 buttons and zero aoe.

Also, leveling a job isn't "content".

**Emstidor** · 11-13-2018 05:30 AM

You're more than welcome to make a checklist of "four runs of Satasha, five runs of Tam Tara, Six runs of copperbell, six runs of halatali" etc before you let yourself play a job in more recent content, but please don't force it on everyone else.

**Lumis_Arvalo** · 11-13-2018 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by Syrus718

we are left with Jobs and the hopefully soon to be departing role System.

Ah, yes. Let's remove job roles from a game built entirely around the "MMO trinity".

This isn't FFXI. Go play that if that's what you want.

**Hakuro89** · 11-13-2018 05:33 AM

I sort of agree with both posts to an extent. Yes, leveling up is AIDS from any point, especially as DPS.
On the other hand, I also see the point of starting at level 1 and working towards max from there. Starting at level 30 or especially level 50 dumps all of the skills of the job up to that level on you all at once. Starting at level 1 though, and working your way up, you benefit from the learning curve of the job that moves forward at the same pace as your character's level, giving you a better understanding of how the job works at a more reasonable pace (in fact you could probably attribute at least some of that to why there were so many SAMs that only use Midare). At least, I would prefer that than having the finished job and all it's skills dumped on you all at once and going 'here, figure it out'. Call me old fashioned. I just makes me feel like I bought a jump potion for a job I don't know how to play yet. I distinctly remember back in ARR that a common complaint were people that didn't know how to play their jobs because they had FATE grinded all the way to 50 and immediately jumped into endgame content.

**Kurando** · 11-13-2018 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by Tlachtga

No one wants to run...

Clearly OP has a desire to run low level content with new jobs (from level 1) and most likely there is several other players that might agree with it too, so let's not speak for everyone eh.

For some players leveling is a fun element and honestly once I get everything to max level, i kinda miss it. If it was any other FF or RPG I'd just start a new save file, but the luxury isn't quite the same with an MMO as there is usually a lot to go through or it takes time away from your main etc. Having an option to start from a low level (on new jobs) or to gain experience again would be cool, but I can't see it happening.

**Syrus718** · 11-13-2018 05:58 AM

You Clearly Misunderstood what the meant... cross class were removed Because of button boat and the removal of the class system. This system was changed after every job was gutted and force to choose 5 role skills and now the ads even changed to all 10 role skills can be use by your Job " The soon to be departing system" is the skills altogether

**Jojoya** · 11-13-2018 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Syrus718

Now that SE has done away with the class and cross role systems, Which I personally feel was a mistake because I enjoyed them Both; we are left with Jobs and the hopefully soon to be departing role System. But If anyone is like me I enjoy playing multiple Jobs and with that gearing plus leveling them up while I play through content.
5.0 is on the Horizon so Surely new jobs are expected as well But my gripe comes with the level we start these new jobs at. Nin entered ARR essentially as a Rogue at lvl10 (40 lvls below Max) HW introduced Drk, Ast and Mch Lvl30 (30 Below) and Sb Brought Rdm And Sam at Lvl50(20 lvls Below Max). Why cant we have the option to start new jobs at level 1? It would repopulate pve areas, Lower level dungeons outside of roulettes, make squadrons and your chocobo useful again, add more job quest and could even coincide with the much talked about ability to replay msq and instances.
Some naysayers will counter with I just wanna play the new jobs in new content... Yeah but then what? You Maxed Out In 2 to 3 days, threw on your highest gear from a similar role and now your back into the endgame grind of completing weekly's and complaining about having no content do untill the next patch releases. Its may not be for everyone but let me level up

So what's to stop you from sticking to low level FATEs then moving into leves, guildhests and low level dungeons so you can replicate a lower level experience? That's how you'd be leveing an alt job if you were starting from level 1, correct? The most you'd be missing out on would be a handful of job quests that don't exist for jobs that start at a higher level.

Don't get me wrong, personally I enjoy leveling and take my time doing it but the tools exist for you to accomplish what you want. You're the one choosing not to make use of them.

**Syrus718** · 11-13-2018 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by Jojoya

So what's to stop you from sticking to low level FATEs then moving into leves, guildhests and low level dungeons so you can replicate a lower level experience? That's how you'd be leveing an alt job if you were starting from level 1, correct? The most you'd be missing out on would be a handful of job quests that don't exist for jobs that start at a higher level.

Don't get me wrong, personally I enjoy leveling and take my time doing it but the tools exist for you to accomplish what you want. You're the one choosing not to make use of them.

When Sb Came out Coerthas Was Alive Again, The Market boards Lower level Gear was selling, PvE Areas Were no longer virtually A wasteland. When you Level Sync Down Your a Big Fish trapped in A Small Pond. It feels forced but When Your Actually The Current Level of the dungeon or instance the feel is Different that's why I said make the choice a option.

**Syrus718** · 11-13-2018 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by Emstidor

You're more than welcome to make a checklist of "four runs of Satasha, five runs of Tam Tara, Six runs of copperbell, six runs of halatali" etc before you let yourself play a job in more recent content, but please don't force it on everyone else.

I clearly said make it a option not force it anyone

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