Is my story lore-friendly?

[Brightamethyst]

Is it logical? Sure! But so is that over 70% of Ishgard's population is descended from that first group of Elezen, and 20% on top of that is Midlanders who piled into Eorzea whilst the proto-Ishgardians were yet pretty much the only people back from the floods.

That's my take on it too. Ishagrd isn't inherently inhospitable to everyone else, it's just that no one else bothered to settle there before the elezen dug in.

[Princess_Cassandra]

It's true, just not invoked very often. In Eorzea, many are ...traditional... about this, but there's a continuum to it just like in real life. You have your progressives, you have those who offer offense and violence, but most are probably in that "I'm not racist, but..." gray area where they say things like, "Right, but why can't you marry a nice [insert race here] like yourself?" Perhaps it goes back to the middle of the Sixth Astral Era in this case, since many of the races/clans went disproportionately to specific city-states mid-era.
Adventurers just tend to have zero time for this stereotype / distrust nonsense. All that matters in the world is who really has your back, who really helps you survive, and that you live your life to the fullest because your next adventure could be your last.

Thanks for clearing this up.

If you focus on where she was a refugee from and to and how they met and fell in love, you can work that into the story in a way that just becomes more salient than that she ends up in Ishgard for most of the people who'd analyze it. As far as anyone in Ishgard is concerned, there could be a thousand excuses for her arrival. Maybe they're the wife and daughter of a man who saved your life. Maybe you're righteous for taking care of them. They don't know. They just need to mind their own business and expect the Fury's justice if anything happens to them.

The daughter is going to be a character I want to RP as so it is a pretty important part of the story but yes I want to emphasis the hellish realities of poverty, the loss that people suffered due to the Calamity and on the mother's love story with Fluerent. I really really like the ideas of Fluerent appearing or at least spinning it in a way of him being righteous for taking care of them and everyone should mind their own business and expect the Fury's justice if anything happens to to them.

I learned a lot from this post thanks. c: (had to divide my post in half because for some reason I hit a text limit)

[Anonymoose]

I would like to write this so he makes his first reappearance during a pretty desperate, potentially losing battle against Dravanians and he fights in a way that inspires Ishgardian troops and slays/helps to slay a significant foe. So it happens in a way that kind of makes it impossible to deny hearing him out, he boosts the moral of some of the men, and garners an overwhelming amount of witnesses of him killing Dravanians which would help to dispel the notion of him being a heretic. As an NPC in Camp Dragonhead named Belmont says "I tell you, the high and mighty around these parts don't even see in black and white. They see in "dragon" and "not dragon," you know of what I speak."

Well thought-out, imho! Just need to make the convenient coincidence not stick out like a sore thumb, but with how thin Ishgard was stretched last year and how many attacks they suffered, that shouldn't be very hard! And Thanalan gives you plenty of opportunities for a Miqo'te to fall on hard times.

had to divide my post in half because for some reason I hit a text limit

Edits don't count, so just write whatever you want to write - copy/cut it out of the post - and then just post EDIT INCOMING, edit your post, and paste your wall of text. Annoying circumvention but better than some of the alternatives!

Best of luck with your new journey, and don't feel like you can't come back to (or necro) this thread any time!

[Princess_Cassandra]

Edits don't count, so just write whatever you want to write - copy/cut it out of the post - and then just post EDIT INCOMING, edit your post, and paste your wall of text. Annoying circumvention but better than some of the alternatives!

Best of luck with your new journey, and don't feel like you can't come back to (or necro) this thread any time!

Ohhh, haha that is very clever! Thank you sincerely for your help so far but can I ask for assistance in determining if another story piece is acceptable and/or fixing it if it's not? When I made this post I was not sure whether it would be best to post here or on the FFXIV roleplayer forums so I posted it on both, I've gotten much more comments here but the few I did on the other were slightly more on the tough love side of things than reassuring. I would appreciate if you could read the comments there and tell me what you think of my second post which contains the next part in this Ishgard story. I would just copy it here but maybe its important to see the opinions there as well.

https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/topic/...lore-friendly/

[Anonymoose]

I've gotten much more comments here but the few I did on the other were slightly more on the tough love side of things than reassuring.

Ha. Different cultures, I suppose. Lore forum tends to be focused mostly on "Is it truth?" "What is the evidence for that truth?" "Is that evidence in question?" "What can we theorize based on the knowns?" Roleplayers have more opinions. [spooky fingers]

Teadrinker makes a point; roleplayers can be intolerant and stodgy about their idea of the lore. Though imho, that's asinine; most of the misconceptions and entrenched falsehoods about the lore can be sourced back to bad roleplayer assumptions and headcanon creeping its way like an ivy into Tumblr, FFWiki, Reddit, etc. - though a fair amount come from YouTube gurus, too. (Don't look at me like that, Balmung, hard truths cut both ways.) Thems just the breaks when it's necessary to both know and bend the lore for your purposes. Some people forget what was only made up to justify their hooks, if they understood it in the proper context in the first place.

I'd stick to Merenary's point of view. Do what you want to do and RP with the people who gravitate towards it. Don't worry about the rest.

I don't think you even explicitly said this Miqo'te would try to continue on as Ishgardian nobility, or even technically an Ishgardian citizen, did you? She would simply have incidentally grown up in Ishgard and taking a shine to an Ishgardian's worldview before going out on her own adventures? And you want all of this in place before you sew in the "RP Hooks," yes?

[Princess_Cassandra]

Teadrinker makes a point; roleplayers can be intolerant and stodgy about their idea of the lore. Though imho, that's asinine; most of the misconceptions and entrenched falsehoods about the lore can be sourced back to bad roleplayer assumptions and headcanon creeping its way like an ivy into Tumblr, FFWiki, Reddit, etc. - though a fair amount come from YouTube gurus, too. (Don't look at me like that, Balmung, hard truths cut both ways.) I'd stick to Merenary's point of view. Do what you want to do and RP with the people who gravitate towards it. Don't worry about the rest.

Yay, thanks for the advice! I think the three of you make a compelling point about not trying to please everyone and to just RP with people with the right people, I'll try to do just that.

I don't think you even explicitly said this Miqo'te would try to continue on as Ishgardian nobility, or even technically an Ishgardian citizen, did you? She would simply have incidentally grown up in Ishgard and taking a shine to an Ishgardian's worldview before going out on her own adventures? And you want all of this in place before you sew in the "RP Hooks," yes?

Yes, pretty much exactly that. She wouldn't dare try to claim herself a place among nobility and isn't really a citizen, especially after she goes out to live an adventurer's life. I wanted to make sure I had a coherent story as a foundation before I moved on to Rp hooks and the RP itself.

[Princess_Cassandra]

I have a few questions I'd like to ask to get a better understanding, related but not directly related.

After the end of the Dragonsong War and Ishgard becoming part of the alliance, is House Fortemps still known to employ sell-swords and adventurers? Have any other of the main houses changed their stance?

Would the Warrior of Light be allowed to live in Ishgard/Coerthas if they asked, or would they be denied for being an outsider still despite their deeds? What about to a far lesser degree, an adventurer who has proven their worth having slain a dragon? Also is it true that there is some social mobility in the sense that should a peasant slay a dragon, they may become knighted and socially advance?