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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Is it logical? Sure! But so is that over 70% of Ishgard's population is descended from that first group of Elezen, and 20% on top of that is Midlanders who piled into Eorzea whilst the proto-Ishgardians were yet pretty much the only people back from the floods.
    That's my take on it too. Ishagrd isn't inherently inhospitable to everyone else, it's just that no one else bothered to settle there before the elezen dug in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    It's true, just not invoked very often. In Eorzea, many are ...traditional... about this, but there's a continuum to it just like in real life. You have your progressives, you have those who offer offense and violence, but most are probably in that "I'm not racist, but..." gray area where they say things like, "Right, but why can't you marry a nice [insert race here] like yourself?" Perhaps it goes back to the middle of the Sixth Astral Era in this case, since many of the races/clans went disproportionately to specific city-states mid-era.
    Adventurers just tend to have zero time for this stereotype / distrust nonsense. All that matters in the world is who really has your back, who really helps you survive, and that you live your life to the fullest because your next adventure could be your last.
    Thanks for clearing this up.


    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    If you focus on where she was a refugee from and to and how they met and fell in love, you can work that into the story in a way that just becomes more salient than that she ends up in Ishgard for most of the people who'd analyze it. As far as anyone in Ishgard is concerned, there could be a thousand excuses for her arrival. Maybe they're the wife and daughter of a man who saved your life. Maybe you're righteous for taking care of them. They don't know. They just need to mind their own business and expect the Fury's justice if anything happens to them.
    The daughter is going to be a character I want to RP as so it is a pretty important part of the story but yes I want to emphasis the hellish realities of poverty, the loss that people suffered due to the Calamity and on the mother's love story with Fluerent. I really really like the ideas of Fluerent appearing or at least spinning it in a way of him being righteous for taking care of them and everyone should mind their own business and expect the Fury's justice if anything happens to to them.

    I learned a lot from this post thanks. c: (had to divide my post in half because for some reason I hit a text limit)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Cassandra View Post
    I would like to write this so he makes his first reappearance during a pretty desperate, potentially losing battle against Dravanians and he fights in a way that inspires Ishgardian troops and slays/helps to slay a significant foe. So it happens in a way that kind of makes it impossible to deny hearing him out, he boosts the moral of some of the men, and garners an overwhelming amount of witnesses of him killing Dravanians which would help to dispel the notion of him being a heretic. As an NPC in Camp Dragonhead named Belmont says "I tell you, the high and mighty around these parts don't even see in black and white. They see in "dragon" and "not dragon," you know of what I speak."
    Well thought-out, imho! Just need to make the convenient coincidence not stick out like a sore thumb, but with how thin Ishgard was stretched last year and how many attacks they suffered, that shouldn't be very hard! And Thanalan gives you plenty of opportunities for a Miqo'te to fall on hard times.

    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Cassandra View Post
    had to divide my post in half because for some reason I hit a text limit
    Edits don't count, so just write whatever you want to write - copy/cut it out of the post - and then just post EDIT INCOMING, edit your post, and paste your wall of text. Annoying circumvention but better than some of the alternatives!

    Best of luck with your new journey, and don't feel like you can't come back to (or necro) this thread any time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Edits don't count, so just write whatever you want to write - copy/cut it out of the post - and then just post EDIT INCOMING, edit your post, and paste your wall of text. Annoying circumvention but better than some of the alternatives!

    Best of luck with your new journey, and don't feel like you can't come back to (or necro) this thread any time!
    Ohhh, haha that is very clever! Thank you sincerely for your help so far but can I ask for assistance in determining if another story piece is acceptable and/or fixing it if it's not? When I made this post I was not sure whether it would be best to post here or on the FFXIV roleplayer forums so I posted it on both, I've gotten much more comments here but the few I did on the other were slightly more on the tough love side of things than reassuring. I would appreciate if you could read the comments there and tell me what you think of my second post which contains the next part in this Ishgard story. I would just copy it here but maybe its important to see the opinions there as well.

    https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/topic/...lore-friendly/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Still good, though you might want to get an idea of how/where they fought, just for the sake of it. Did they join one of the three Grand Companies uniting to fight the battle? If so, which banner did they fight under? If not, how did they get there and where did they fight? The Grand Companies each have a unit of enlisted adventurers, called upon in times of need but otherwise allowed to pursue their own means and ends. These units were given priority in the retreat, with full-time enlisted soldiers defending the rear. If you weren't one of the Echo-blessed, primal-slaying, Darnus-killing elite adventurers standing with Louisoix, it's not to hard to write escaping Carteneau without going into the rift.
    Thank you for such an informative post! You have given me many ideas and directions to elaborate Fleurent's story, I think his adventures would have him questing around Thanalan and fighting alongside The Immortal Flames at Carteneau.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    This would be the most tricky part to write, I'd think. His flight from Coerthas would almost assuredly be interpreted and presented as admission of guilt to whatever he was accused of (and likely without him there to defend it, these enemies would heap some extra ones on the pyre). How does he bridge this gap? Did someone "hold the fort" within his house in the county and give him a way to take back his story in a "redemption arc" narrative? Does he come as a stranger to a family in another county and gain valorous attention there before admitting who he is and trying to turn the tide of his reputation? Does he embrace the socio-political games and start moving rivals of rivals against one another to re-write what "really" happened? Did he make his entrance with such a grand gesture that it was impossible to deny hearing him out? It's up to you!
    You are right about this, his reputation and his house's name would be severely shamed, almost irreversibly so for most. I would like to write this so he makes his first reappearance during a pretty desperate, potentially losing battle against Dravanians and he fights in a way that inspires Ishgardian troops and slays/helps to slay a significant foe. So it happens in a way that kind of makes it impossible to deny hearing him out, he boosts the moral of some of the men, and garners an overwhelming amount of witnesses of him killing Dravanians which would help to dispel the notion of him being a heretic. As an NPC in Camp Dragonhead named Belmont says "I tell you, the high and mighty around these parts don't even see in black and white. They see in "dragon" and "not dragon," you know of what I speak."
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