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Thread: Pyros issues!

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    Pyros issues!

    While Pyros is just worlds better than what Pagos ever was, I still have a couple issues with it!

    1)Northern bunny fate, pyros hawks and bunnies just do not go together, those bees are in a horrible position and too many keep being pulled by people, by mistake or on purpose, and instant killing bunnies. Maybe move those mobs elsewhere or make bunnies invincible or something?

    2)The high end logograms, curative, offensive, mitigation, yata yata, are not very spread out within eureka some are just way to hard or way to easy to get. Think it would of been better to have them drop elemental wise from mobs like people originally thought they did at 1st. Wind-curative, fire-offensive, tactical-lightning, that kind of thing and then just have bunnies give any type randomly from gold chest.

    3)Little bit too much rng. Chance for bunny, chance for chest, chance for logograms, chance for good stat, chance for right stat amount. No like, no want, I personally enjoyed the long, tedious, but guaranteed way to go about relic weapons.

    Oh yeah, and stop with the tiny paths filled with mobs, open area like Anemos was just soooo much better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    While Pyros is just worlds better than what Pagos ever was, I still have a couple issues with it!

    1)Northern bunny fate, pyros hawks and bunnies just do not go together, those bees are in a horrible position and too many keep being pulled by people, by mistake or on purpose, and instant killing bunnies. Maybe move those mobs elsewhere or make bunnies invincible or something?


    Literally every single time I run this FATE! xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    2)The high end logograms, curative, offensive, mitigation, yata yata, are not very spread out within eureka some are just way to hard or way to easy to get. Think it would of been better to have them drop elemental wise from mobs like people originally thought they did at 1st. Wind-curative, fire-offensive, tactical-lightning, that kind of thing and then just have bunnies give any type randomly from gold chest.
    I joined a group to kill undead for mitigative logograms and got one in 60 kills. They may as well not drop them with a rate that pathetically low.

    And I need offensive logograms that only come from bunnies. I've gotten multiple gold chests but I only ever get curative logograms. They really ought to rebalance some of these things a bit, but considering how they never fixed all the drops from Pagos being total crap I doubt they'll adjust these either.
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    You can actually get a lot of Mitigative Logograms from the level 43 Fire Sprites at the southern aetheryte, but only if you didn't out-level them beforehand. It's how I stocked up on well over 100 of them and now have more Shell L and Stoneskin L than I will ever need. A similar case is true for Fundamentals, although I long since out-leveled those by the time I learned what lower level sprite dropped them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I joined a group to kill undead for mitigative logograms and got one in 60 kills. They may as well not drop them with a rate that pathetically low.

    And I need offensive logograms that only come from bunnies. I've gotten multiple gold chests but I only ever get curative logograms. They really ought to rebalance some of these things a bit, but considering how they never fixed all the drops from Pagos being total crap I doubt they'll adjust these either.
    Yeah, definitely needs rebalancing, think having them spread out through elements would have been a much better way of going about it. Something like 20-30 of chaining having a high chance of logograms dropping as well. As for bunnies think its the cap they have with how many can be out really ruins it, apparently only like 50 or so bunnies can be out an about in an instance so a good chunk of people dont actually get them. If its like server limitations or something of that sort then I understand but they either need to find other ways to have those logograms drop, at the very very least give 1 of the high grade logograms for just completing the fate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteltain View Post
    You can actually get a lot of Mitigative Logograms from the level 43 Fire Sprites at the southern aetheryte, but only if you didn't out-level them beforehand. It's how I stocked up on well over 100 of them and now have more Shell L and Stoneskin L than I will ever need. A similar case is true for Fundamentals, although I long since out-leveled those by the time I learned what lower level sprite dropped them.
    We need a level sync more than ever.
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    My biggest gripe is the bunnies get in the damn way! You're trying to target the NM, but instead you get a bunny. It's annoying. You got to cycle through on the controller to finally focus on mob. This is whether it's a bunny NPC on their Fates or bunny pet fighting other NMs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul View Post
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    You can set multiple sets of filters in the config to combat this issue. I can't remember the exact one to select but there is one that ignores things like NPCs such as the bunnies, but otherwise it can be annoying targeting anything in some situations on controller. Trying to cycle through 40+ players fighting a single target just to get to the player you saw was dead on the floor, and by time you get to it someone else has raised them. Could definitely do with a Dead Players Only filter option in the config ..
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    If you do the bunnies in a zone that isn't full yet you will get one for sure.
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    What I don't understand is that its so rare in the first place. People will still do the content but to make them do it begrudgingly is just not healthy game design. Gold chests are already rare and on top of that mitigative, protective and offensive drops from them with the latter two being exclusive to gold chests. I've been playing since pyros launch and have only seen 2 gold chests and that's with roughly 8 hours a day. Excessive I know and I am aware I am addicted to this game, not to be confused with engaged, but that's why I don't like heavy RNG as it only rewards participation. Other people who have started at the same time as me have gotten the mount all 50 logos and also have gotten the hairstyle multiple times. Is this fair that my progression is tied to how often I show up as opposed to how I interact with content?

    Not to mention the people who already have everything and still do bunnies for the MB resell. It's probably the best example of inflated RNG as the number of people participating in bunnies will always increase as more people hit 50 and your odds of getting a bunny, it surviving and getting a gold and getting the logoram continues to decrease. I average about 5-6 bunnies in 3 hours and I can't imagine how some people go longer than that without seeing 1.
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