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    Levy9's Avatar
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    Papaneja Zazaneja
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
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    I agree. I was gonna edit my post but you took the words right out of my mouth, lol. I think that utilizing the Wolf Collars more would benefit everyone involved, no matter what position you've taken on top 100 rewards. The people who doubt their ability to climb far will have more motivation to come back next season. They'll have a seasonal goal of (x) amount of collars that they feel they can actually accomplish with their level of experience/talent.

    The reason I'd go with collars is because they're tied to rank and I think people should still feel as if their ranking matters, regardless of whether they got top 100. Under the current system, people feel as if only the top 100 matters and everything else isn't recognized.

    SE added a PvP mount to purchase with Wolf Marks. Since Wolf Collars take more effort to attain, I'd say why not add a nice Wolf Collar mount, regardless of what the top 100 rewards are? Why should the casual PvP currency offer so much more than the ranked currency?
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    Malina Loma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levy9 View Post
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    Oooh. Wolf Collars. Right now they are so pointless I totally forgot about their existence and purpose. Lol.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Oooh. Wolf Collars. Right now they are so pointless I totally forgot about their existence and purpose. Lol.
    They can be converted into wolf marks and there's now some consumable items on the marks vendors for what it's worth. The housing, hair, mount stuff also costs quite a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    They can be converted into wolf marks and there's now some consumable items on the marks vendors for what it's worth. The housing, hair, mount stuff also costs quite a lot.
    True but therein lies the problem. Marks > Collars atm. Collars are ultimately stand-ins for Marks and Marks can already be farmed rather quickly by just doing frontlines, which pops at almost any time of the day. You don't need to play ranked at all to farm them.
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    Zephera Mortera
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    Lol again at the suggestion that wolf marks are suitable rewards for ranked PvP, you don't need to do ranked PvP to get marks so nobody is going to queue for it, they'll just queue for frontline instead.

    And a certain person continues their passive aggressive streak, guess it's true some PvPers would rather fight other people than fix the problems with ranked PvP, namely that so few people play it.
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    Last edited by Zephera; 11-15-2018 at 12:01 PM.

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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Even if the old rewards were available season after season (you place in the top 100, you get your choice of thing) it would be an improvement over the current way they're handled.

    But they really do need to police the boards with the same intensity and scrutiny that they did for the tournament. That's probably the main reason people have such an aversion to Feast in the first place. Every time someone goes on Reddit and asks "how is PVP in this game?", they get the same responses -- "full of boosters and win traders, go play another game if you want PVP". Actually handling that would go a LONG way toward encouraging more players to participate.

    Remember GARO? I saw veteran PVP'ers and beginners alike in Feast and it was glorious. Didn't win that match? No big deal, queue up and try again. It was so much calmer. I'm not saying there shouldn't be competition, but the very slim attainability of rewards from the outset usually makes people fall into one of three camps:

    1) I can't do it, so why even try.
    2) I can't do it, so I'll pay someone else to do it for me.
    3) I'm going to try for it, and at least I'll get some collars for my effort.

    Feast is barely clinging to life support right now. Even the tournament wasn't enough to generate much interest. At least on Primal, it took forever until there were 10 parties even ON the boards. SE has made a lot of changes to make Feast more beginner-friendly but they're forgetting the one thing that makes people want to do things in the first place - the SHINY.

    Even if the reward you could buy with collars was a little different than the one you got from placing, that would be acceptable. Although I'd prefer it if we had a choice, since ranked light party isn't a thing anymore.

    Bottom line - we need more people in Feast. If you're against making old rewards more attainable, how else would you encourage it??
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - HAHA no that's sacred.

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    Kaname Dropscythe
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    Top rewards should stay top rewards, old rewards should stay old and exclusive to their respective season/s (each reward is pretty much available for 2 seasons). Each season is unique, in a way. Take the earlier seasons, for example: things were very different and harder whereas now it's extremely easy to get top 100. I don't think there's anything that should be changed in regards to the exclusivity of the rewards (they were promised to be exclusive). These reward people for their time and effort and I think it's nice to have things in the game like these. I wish the world first/second/etc. have their equivalent but alas there's no game reward for them.

    There should be FAR more things to spend Wolf Collars on, preferably actual, complete rewards and these should be the participation rewards. Right now, they are barely even rewards.
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    Runic Raven
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    Everyone is angry about the PvP Rewards. The Real Problem is that i die of boredom doing the 4.x PvP. Even if i am at 100% winrate, i just stop after a maximum of 5 games cause i get reminded how utterly boring the new pvp is.
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    Last edited by Araxes; 11-25-2018 at 04:12 AM.
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    Crit Ful
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    let me just make suggestions and complaints about a mode i dont play at all and convince myself to never actually try it because of issues like the net code and engine when in reality its just too hard for me and the pvpers get rewards i want
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    Pls stop it the horse is already dead =[
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