Feedback to the Game Devs, Dungeons need a revamp

[tdb]

Turning all dungeon mobs into elite mobs wouldn't help. The good players would still do mass pulls and some of them would expect everyone to do that. If you increase trash difficulty to the point where good players are forced to kill one group at a time, bad players will wipe to the first group.

In HW and SB dungeons have barriers which you can't pass until you've killed all the enemies up to that point. Typically there's two or three groups in each section. Given that you're level 52 you would only have seen the first such dungeon, but more will follow.

On my server it's common to pull only one or occasionally two groups at a time in the Lv 15-49 dungeons. Boss-to-boss pulls are a rare sight. I guess your server's community might be different.

[Kaiten_kenbu]

And that's why playing as tank is great.

You decide the pace the dungeon goes.

If DPS or heals want to go and pull mobs, I'll just let you die.

You spank it, you tank it.

And don't worry, I don't skip any mobs.

[FFgame]

And that's why playing as tank is great.

You decide the pace the dungeon goes.

Tanks do not decide the pace of the dungeon, the group as a whole does.

[MicahZerrshia]

And that's why playing as tank is great.

You decide the pace the dungeon goes.

If a tank wants to pull small just because they think they are a big bad tank and therefore has the absolute and final say and the dps start pulling other mobs into the fray but said tank is too stubborn, lazy or full of themselves to do their job and I am a healer...

I turn my priority to keeping the dps alive and let the tank do their thing and if they die, so be it. And I will stay with the dps even if the tanks just runs away to the next pack. Tanks need to learn their place. Just because you want to be a tank doesn't mean you can treat the rest of the pt like garbage.

And OP, if you want to play differently than the majority its good you found ppl who like your own style of play. This whole mentality of "What I want to do is better than what the vast majority want to do and therefore the devs need to change the game to better suit my tastes" is why we already have a group of devs that cant figure out how to make a decent piece of content. Cause you are all really really loud yet very very few.

[Kaiten_kenbu]

If a tank wants to pull small just because they think they are a big bad tank and therefore has the absolute and final say and the dps start pulling other mobs into the fray but said tank is too stubborn, lazy or full of themselves to do their job and I am a healer...

I turn my priority to keeping the dps alive and let the tank do their thing and if they die, so be it. And I will stay with the dps even if the tanks just runs away to the next pack. Tanks need to learn their place. Just because you want to be a tank doesn't mean you can treat the rest of the pt like garbage.

Its not about being stubborn or lazy. If you choose to be greedy and go pull more than I would like, why should I want to pick up after you? It wasn't done accidentally, its done intentionally.

I'm running at a chill pace. I get you to the end, that's all that matters.

Cases in point Dzemael Darkhold and Aurum Vale.

More haste, less speed.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Its not about being stubborn or lazy. If you choose to be greedy and go pull more than I would like, why should I want to pick up after you? It wasn't done accidentally, its done intentionally.

I'm running at a chill pace. I get you to the end, that's all that matters.

Cases in point Dzemael Darkhold and Aurum Vale.

More haste, less speed.

Except why do you get to dictate the pace if everyone else wants to go faster? It's one thing if you're new or admit you lack experience with huge pulls, thus are a bit nervous to try. It's another thing entirely if you simply puff your chest and demand three players "deal with" you wanting to run at a "chill pace." They have just as much a right to puff their chests back.

[Shurrikhan]

Its not about being stubborn or lazy. If you choose to be greedy and go pull more than I would like, why should I want to pick up after you? It wasn't done accidentally, its done intentionally.

I'm running at a chill pace. I get you to the end, that's all that matters.

It's not "all that matters." Service at a restaurant 20 minutes later than normal is not the same service. Getting your car back from the shop a week later than expected is not the same service. Three peoples' efficiency being sunk well below the average and/or their time being held hostage over the fourth's "difference in playstyle" is not just a matter of "getting to the end". It's rude, arrogant, and self-centered. Overperformance does not hurt others' play or waste their time. Unintential underperformance is generally forgivable except where symptomatic of intentional negligence. Purposely treating a run as a scenic haunted house ride when everyone else wants to enjoy it an altogether different way, and then treating them as trash for attempting to have a real say in the process (e.g. pulling the remainder of the normal pull size for you) is not.

You're making yourself out to be exactly that stubborn and egotistic tank the above posts were just referring to. Do you need a bigger shovel for your hole?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

And that's why playing as tank is great.

You decide the pace the dungeon goes.

If DPS or heals want to go and pull mobs, I'll just let you die.

You spank it, you tank it.

And don't worry, I don't skip any mobs.

This threat has little bite nowadays since dungeons typically hit like wet noodles. As a healer, I'll outright beg DPS to pull extra mobs if the tank refuses otherwise I'm bored out of my mind. At least then I'll actually have to heal.

[RokkuEkkusu]

You're probably going to have a little fun on the beginning part of a certain level 57 dungeon.

[Rongway]

Whenever there's any content that you want to run a specific way, and the way you want to run it is important enough to you that you would write a forum post about not getting to run it that way, you should be using /partyfinder to run it. Regardless of what that content is or how you want to run it.


I must say though, it's incredibly bizarre to hear this complaint from a BLM. They are rockstars on large group pulls.