Question about loot etiquette

[Fynlar]

You only get one drop per week, and the music roll is sellable. It's also a music roll for a track that most people won't ever actually hear in the game otherwise, so I imagine that helps give it some value.

If that's what they wanna use their one drop per week on, it's their prerogative.

[Canadane]

Any use for a drop is a valid use.
Glamour. Music. Desynthing.
Just handing it over to the GC for seals.

All of these are as equally valid as getting your ilvl increased.
If you didn't win the bolt but need one, run it again. That's the entire idea - getting queues moving by having people farm it.

[Violet_Galaxy]

I wasn't aware there were rules or etiquette for this sort of thing. Besides rolling Need, the rest is pretty much up to the RNG crystal mages so anything is fair game. Can't recall ever seeing someone announce their plans for gear though; that's a first.

[Berethos]

I wasn't aware there were rules or etiquette for this sort of thing.

Rules around things like this have existed for years, to varying degrees, with the usual basic idea being that if you're looking to use it to make a profit, then you're in a "greed" situation not a "need" situation.

The key part there though is the "varying degrees" element - some games and communities stick by these rules of etiquette, with a range of consequences from just chiding them for not letting it go to someone who could use it for a gear upgrade (by far the most common in my experience) to much more serious responses.

Of course, the "well they might need the gold/gil" as a rebuttal has existed for just as long, though I personally believe the weight that carries depends on the context of the group (static vs pug, group of friends, etc) as well as the ease with which one can obtain the item. If it were in a game where it's a major upgrade that the group had been trying to get for one or two people for several weeks, and getting drops from raid bosses happens only once a week, etc., then I would see the "well I need money" as not holding the same kind of priority as needing it for gear upgrades.

Here, where it's easy enough to farm and you can keep at it till you get the item you need (and gil for crafted gear/materia overmelding might actually be a legit means of getting good/BiS gear)? Not worth more than an eye roll and maybe an emoted /sigh in their direction.

[Zephera]

I only pass on stuff if in a pre-formed party we agree on loot rules beforehand, or if someone asks politely before loot is rolled during a DF run. I can't read minds if someone really wants something but they don't speak up, I'm just going to assume the item will go to waste if I don't roll need/greed to at least trade something in for seals.

[Tempest222]

Loot etiquette is just a personal thing. You can’t force everyone to follow your own personal guidelines. If the button is available to press then anyone present can press it. Plus 99.9% of the time you will never be able to know what anyone plans to do to with any loot they win anyway.

[hynaku]

What really sucks is run alpha scape1 7 times and never win one roll. After 7 times not winning a roll never gone back into it.

[Frizze]

What really sucks is run alpha scape1 7 times and never win one roll. After 7 times not winning a roll never gone back into it.

7 times? Wow, you give up easily. There were 3 pieces of ridoranna loot i wanted(plus coins for tome upgrades). I got 2 of them my first two weeks(took 2-3 runs per week). The third piece? I never got it. I settled into running that raid 3 times a week every week until 4.4 went live and only ever saw it drop once(my roll was beaten by another mage in the party). For alpha normal, if you went with a party of friends youd have a guaranteed drop within 2 clears if you didnt care which drop you got(most groups being able to get everything everyone wants in no more then 4 clears per floor) - predictable people also negates the potential pain of dealing with DF randos.

[Joe_Schmoe]

Is it considered acceptable in FFXIV to need on something you are going to sell? In previous MMORPGs I've played the general rule has been that you need on items you are going to use yourself and greed on those you're going to sell. Needing for alts or equippable NPCs is kind of a gray area.

I wouldn't have a problem with it, since with me it's crafted > dropped/vendor-bought most of the time anyway. But yeah, that was the rule when I played World of Warcraft. Hell, consider yourself lucky that all he's going to do with it is buy a roll and then sell it for money. On several occasions in WoW I've seen people roll need on an item they don't actually need but somebody else did, and then turn around and disenchant it right in front of their faces (I don't think you can do that in this game, except maybe throw the item away, but you get the idea). Your friend should be the least of your worries!

[tdb]

Thanks for the input. My annoyance was largely because of the sudden revelation that went against what I thought was proper etiquette. Had they told me of their plans before they started I'd most likely have been fine. Had they not told at all I would never have known. I left because I needed some time to cool down my feelings. Had I stayed I would have been liable to say some bad things to them, which I think would have been worse than leaving in a huff. It was already past midnight too, and it was only Tuesday so it's not like we can't resume on another day.