TERA vs. FFXIV

[Xatsh]

Tera has failed in every place it has released to date more or less.

The games are not even similiar.

Square does not have to do anything to compete with it, they are targeting different player bases.

In the end no mmo will kill XIV, only SE can do that.


Tera is the new mmo on the block, all the drooling over it and such. Now if you look at it globally, Tera is doing pretty poor. The NA release is their final shot to save TERA more or less. The question really is what can Tera do to stand up against XIV 2.0 and GW2.

[AreeyaJaidee]

Tera has failed in every place it has released to date more or less.

The games are not even similiar.

Square does not have to do anything to compete with it, they are targeting different player bases.

In the end no mmo will kill XIV, only SE can do that.


Tera is the new mmo on the block, all the drooling over it and such. Now if you look at it globally, Tera is doing pretty poor. The NA release is their final shot to save TERA more or less. The question really is what can Tera do to stand up against XIV 2.0 and GW2.

Nice post.

I'm interested. In what has TERA failed? I ask because I seriously don't know. Could you list some factual evidence please? Links would be nice.

I and everyone else know FFXIVs failings very well. Please help the comparison

[fusional]

Nice post.

I'm interested. In what has TERA failed? I ask because I seriously don't know. Could you list some factual evidence please? Links would be nice.

I and everyone else know FFXIVs failings very well. Please help the comparison

tera isn't popular in korea because it lacks that eternal, retarded uphill treadmill grindy aspect that korean MMOs are known for. the pvp also inhibits a player's ability to run around randomly ganking everything in sight- which is another hallmark of korean MMOs.

in spirit, it's quite western. and the combat system is better than any i've experienced.

people say it lacks content/endgame, and looking at it objectively it absolutely does............ compared to established games like XI and WoW. compared to xiv, though? there is *far far far far far* more to do in tera. and, imo, you have a lot better time doing it there.

again, i've stood by xiv for a while now, and i want it to succeed. and i'm not abandoning it. but tera is just better in nearly every facet.

the only thing i could say it lacks is community, and community is one of the main reasons i was looking forward to xiv in the first place. but the community here sucks, too.

in xi, yeah HNM camps sucked. but sitting around for hours competing for claim, you got to know the people on your servers FAR better than you do in this game. there's no competition. everything is sectioned off in neat little instances where nobody has to fight with each other over anything. there's not even any reason to interact with anyone else outside of your group. and that sucks.

my LS rallied for 1.20, we beat moogle first day, we stuck around for about a week afterward... and then one by one we all completely lost interest. by the time they hotfixed the exploit most of us had completely stopped caring anymore. nobody even cared about speed run. we were all playing other games.

then in our boredom in between tera beta events, we decided we had nothing better to do... so we scheduled a couple moogle speed run attempts. most of us hadn't even been playing at all in the last month+, and it still only took us about 4.5 hours of attempts to get a sub-9 minute kill. so all it accomplished was rubbing in our faces the fact that this game is too easy and completely lacks any kind of tangible competition.

and now we're back to not caring anymore.

is tera considered a 'failure' in korea? yeah. but the japanese are enjoying it, europe is excited for it and it could be just what the doctor ordered for people who want something engaging that isn't WoW.

myself and my LS are more than happy to explore the game's possibilities while we wait (less and less patiently) for someone to inject XIV with the things it *really* needs *right now*.

(hint: NOT useless twaddle like player housing)

[AreeyaJaidee]

*important long post*

Haha! You're very passionate! That's a good thing.

I respect what your LS has accomplished in FFXIV. You guys know your stuff. I also respect your XI experience.

I share the same thoughts. FFXIV needs to give confirmation that End Game won't fail.

Several posts elude to the comparison of "End Games". I want to point at that that is because End Game is the majority of why MMOs exist. It's been debated and ratified many times.

That being said, yes the journey to end game matters as well.

The issue becomes wether a MMO can competently cater to all aspects of that genres needs. End Game has to be spot on and it also must be competitive. SE needs to drop this senile tunnel visioned "instanced content" trash just for the sake of "being nice". Games need competition.

That being said: FFXIV needs to sale it's future capabilities and more than just a few .pdf with dev notes on how "cool" FFXIV will be post 2.0

[AreeyaJaidee]

Yoshi/SE,

You see? Your players are dedicated with passion to what FFXIV "could" be. It's been said many times many ways. I don't know how much you realize this, but players really do care. Even the immature ones that post like 2nd graders!

You've got us all offensive and defensive about your project. Frankly we wanna know more. I personally think you need to give us more sales pitches. What exactly COULD End Game FFXIV look like? I know you withhold information for legal reasons but there must be more info you can give your players.

Just a thought :3

[Kyri]

Yoshi/SE,

You see? Your players are dedicated with passion to what FFXIV "could" be. It's been said many times many ways. I don't know how much you realize this, but players really do care. Even the immature ones that post like 2nd graders!

You've got us all offensive and defensive about your project. Frankly we wanna know more. I personally think you need to give us more sales pitches. What exactly COULD End Game FFXIV look like? I know you withhold information for legal reasons but there must be more info you can give your players.

Just a thought :3

I would agree to this completely! I love this game, but I want to know more. When 2.0 information came out, everyone was so very excited. we wait and as the waiting goes on so many get so negative.. I play everyday to get my crafts up in the hopes I may make large amounts of money and get a relic someday, but everything is too easy.. I am now working on all 50 DoW/M on a secondary character. I want a challenge, XI was a challenge to me, granted I do not want to commit and dedicate as I did to XI, three day camps was far too much and i am very grateful this isn't the case here.
I have very high hopes to 2.0 and will stay, but a bit more information would be very nice.

As for Tera, though I am a one mmo kind of gal this game had me looking for footage and applying to the betas (never did get one ; for a long time. I wasn't into trying rift, and I would give SW a try for my husbands sake( he loves the SW sagas) but this is the only one outside of XIV that has had me on my toes. Thank you those playing for your information on the gameplay/community and endgame in this game, perhaps for if only a short time, I too could be a two mmo kind of gal, because this game really does appeal to me. But to the tera players are all armors really that bad(you know what I mean) and weapons so big? Im kind of hoping this might not be true ^^:

Also I give Kudos to Teras forums. They are much friendlier then I am used to and I am glad to see that respect is common on them.

[AreeyaJaidee]

I would agree to this completely! I love this game, but I want to know more. When 2.0 information came out, everyone was so very excited. we wait and as the waiting goes on so many get so negative.. I play everyday to get my crafts up in the hopes I may make large amounts of money and get a relic someday, but everything is too easy.. I am now working on all 50 DoW/M on a secondary character. I want a challenge, XI was a challenge to me, granted I do not want to commit and dedicate as I did to XI, three day camps was far too much and i am very grateful this isn't the case here.
I have very high hopes to 2.0 and will stay, but a bit more information would be very nice.

As for Tera, though I am a one mmo kind of gal this game had me looking for footage and applying to the betas (never did get one ; for a long time. I wasn't into trying rift, and I would give SW a try for my husbands sake( he loves the SW sagas) but this is the only one outside of XIV that has had me on my toes. Thank you those playing for your information on the gameplay/community and endgame in this game, perhaps for if only a short time, I too could be a two mmo kind of gal, because this game really does appeal to me. But to the tera players are all armors really that bad(you know what I mean) and weapons so big? Im kind of hoping this might not be true ^^:

Also I give Kudos to Teras forums. They are much friendlier then I am used to and I am glad to see that respect is common on them.

Good stuff :3

I also think SE should go back to polls in order to vote things. These forums are full of impolite and ignorant ppl. I would like a way to cast my vote without wading through a plethora of retardation.

(Very true about TERA forums. I was checking them out. Wish FFXIV players would take some pointers from those guys over there :'( )