TERA vs. FFXIV

[Rydin]

Inb4lock
Also I don't plan on playing Cataclysm.... I mean rift... I mean DC Universe... I mean SW:TOR... I mean...
what game is this thread about again?

[fusional]

i participated extensively in highly competitive endgame ffxi linkshells. i participated extensively in highly competitive endgame WoW guilds. i tried a lot of stuff on the side, and none of it could deliver that challenging, competitive endgame experience i was searching for. i came to ffxiv hoping for competition and challenge, for content that not only kept me busy but felt rewarding at the same time.

i haven't really felt much of that in this game. what little endgame we have is far too easy already, yet is still met by people calling it too difficult. we also seem to have an extremely vocal opposition to in these forums to anything resembling competition.

i'm not a roleplayer. i don't care about achievement points. i want my skills tested, against challenging content and other skilled players. i want to feel a sense of accomplishment from what i do. in ffxiv, we have a grind for the sake of having a grind. it's not hard. it's just there to act as a treadmill. this leaves me with no tangible feeling of satisfaction, no matter how quickly we beat a new primal or get 7/7 weapons.

ffxiv, for me, lacks passion and soul. and it really bums me out to say that, because i so desperately want this game to be good. i want this game to have epic story, something to do whenever i log on, and something to test my skill and push me to play better all the time. and i understand yoshi and crew are working toward that, but in the meantime... there just isn't much to keep me interested other than loyalty and hope for a better 2.0

my LS is really excited about tera and gw2. i was very skeptical about both, and remain skeptical of gw2 for many of the same reasons i was skeptical of swtor (and every other new MMO on the block). i give swtor credit for having a great questing system and good story, but then what? there's nothing else to the game. it's kotor with a faux-mmo architecture. there's no challenge. what little competition there is, is broken. and there just isn't any content. gw2 looks to be more empty "single player game in a massive online setting" crap, but maybe it will surprise me.

tera, though. i only gave it a shot because some LS members had played it back during korean beta, and were really talking it up. and boy were my misconceptions about the game shot to hell after a few hours. questing is old-style 'grindy' which may put off some people, but it makes sense in this game because you need to learn to play. and sure, it's fairly repetitive for a while, until you hit 20ish and can start doing the first instance and grouping up for BAMs. this is where the game REALLY takes off. the combat is fluid, responsive, twitchy and FUN. it takes perception, judgment, reflexes, skill. and that's a breath of fresh air to a person that's been aching for a new challenge.

doing 35+ dps on ifrit is cool, but it's not really hard. doing 80+ dps on moogle is cool, and a bit harder, but still doesn't compare to the kind of challenges i experienced in ffxi, like getting server first Bahamut V.2- and *certainly* doesn't compare to pushing for server first SSC/TK/BT/Hyjal/Sunwell progression in WoW. perhaps i'm a masochist, but i miss working at Alone in the Darkness (25) for weeks and weeks. the frustration sucks, sure. but that feeling of elation we got when we finally pulled it off- nothing in ffxiv compares to that. and it sucks.

tera seems like the best candidate right now to rekindle that sense of fun and excitement about new content. it seems like the best candidate for progression/competition-minded players. people who want to push their skills to the limit.

that's not to say it's going to be the end-all be-all of MMOs. i'd really, truly, honestly LOVE for FFXIV 2.0 to be that. nothing would please me more. there's a certain magic i feel in FF worlds that other MMOs lack, so if yoshi and company can pull this off, giving us that magic PLUS actual meaty challenging content to keep us on our toes- i'll be happy to throw my money at square until the servers shut down.

but in the meantime, the sad and brutal truth is simply that tera, for now, is just flat out a better game. the beta alone is better. i honestly didn't even *want* to like the game, because i do feel a sense of duty and loyalty in regards to ffxiv... but i just can't delude myself to reality.

i haven't had fun playing this game for a while now. and i'm having an absolute blast with Tera.

when i log out of ffxiv, i log back on because i'm bored and there's nothing else to do. i try to keep myself busy with little projects so i'll stay involved and not give up on the game entirely. and then i log into Tera, and i'm having fun, and i'm finding myself fiending for more whenever i log out.

i have my fingers crossed that 1.21 will deliver on some serious content. i have my fingers crossed it will get the ball rolling and keep us involved until 2.0. that's what i *want* to happen. but i'm skeptical. so i'll be here for every patch, i'll be here for all the new content, and i'll be here at least until 2.0-

but in-between patches, and in-between content... i just don't have much to keep me logging in to this game. tera is a better game right now, and that's probably what i'm going to be occupying myself with until 2.0.

[Kyri]

Tera excited me till I saw the armor but I respect that they work on the kinks so well. I wonder if they leave a thread with tags like : nerd rage anger butthurt hippies mad furfags rp rage besaid crybabies.leads to the dark side

up and allow whole threads to stay open against the ToS made with the sole purpose of harassment up. (goes to teras forums for a hf hr)Sadly.. I dont think they do

Im not a SE fanboy, I wont say they always do everything right but I can say I play everyday, I love the game, always have minus its issues, but it horrible that the only time we get our way is by complaining enough.

[Baxta]

TERA is not all that, my opinion is that it could be, but at the moment? Nope.

Remind you of another game? Im not generally a man of faith, betting on one game is enough for me.

[Rydin]

I think examining the differences are interesting though
From an artistic standpoint... Terra is more Fantasy looking... whereas FFXIV has a more realistic feel to the landscapes and character models
Many land features seem over exaggerated and many character features are played up for a more whimsical environment
A little too cutesy for me

[SniperRifle]

Yea if 2.0 doesn't rape my mind I'll probably sever all ties w/ 14. I've been considering TERA for a while now... Regardless of whether TERA sucks or whether TERA doesn't, it doesn't change the fact my gaming experience in FF14 has been piss poor and I can't log on for the death of me w/o wanting to do something 10x more fun, like taxes, or stare at paint dry. It's been like this since Dzemael... And probably won't change (excluding patch weeks) until 2.0.

If this persists post 2.0, and there is still no clear defined annual goals for players to work towards I'm gonna have to bounce. I only come to the forums to troll for the lulz. I'm a pretty materialistic person, and spending money on a monthly fee is no issue to me, however, this first month of P2P for FF14 has definitely been one of the worst decisions I have ever made financially. I don't even care if the game improves... If it does I'll stick around, if not I won't resub, and I know Yoshi wouldn't blame me for walking out on this piece.

[AreeyaJaidee]

Yea if 2.0 doesn't rape my mind I'll probably severe all ties w/ 14. I've been considering TERA for a while now... Regardless of whether TERA sucks or whether TERA doesn't, it doesn't change the fact my gaming experience in FF14 has been piss poor and I can't log on for the death of me w/o wanting to do something 10x more fun, like taxes, or stare at paint dry. It's been like this since Dzemael... And probably won't change (excluding patch weeks) until 2.0.

If this persists post 2.0, and there is still no clear defined annual goals for players to work towards I'm gonna have to bounce. I only come to the forums to troll for the lulz. I'm a pretty materialistic person, and spending money on a monthly fee is no issue to me, however, this first month of P2P for FF14 has definitely been one of the worst decisions I have ever made financially. I don't even care if the game improves... If it does I'll stick around, if not I won't resub, and I know Yoshi wouldn't blame me for walking out on this piece.

I lmmfao at "I can't log on for the death of me w/o wanting to do something 10x more fun, like taxes, or stare at paint dry."!

Good stuff xD heh!

[Ruisu]

While I applaud TERA's new combat and fantastic world. It's build on the same dull quest system that WoW, Aion, SWTOR, and every other MMO has at this point in time. Will it be a solid game? Sure. I actually hope I can get into the closed beta to mess around a bit. But I have absolutely no intentions on sticking to that game, since I'm putting all of my time and money into this title. Games will pull people away, when they're bored with that they'll come back. That's usually how an MMO-enthusiast works, unless it's an exceptional MMO.

[TheFatHousecat]

I basically mirror fusional's feelings :I

In my opinion, the only reason people are getting caught up in TERA (myself included), GW2, etc., is that there really isn't an amazing MMO out right now. Every MMO is lacking in some area that, while still playable, removes the desire to play it in the long-term.

XIV has the unique opportunity to be an amazing game that delivers in the areas that those games are lacking, depending of course on how 2.0 and post-2.0 goes. But the problem being we have to wait for that, and in the mean time the content we're getting is, frankly, boring, easy, and short-lived :/ I'm still excited for 2.0, and what this game could be, but until then I'm left knowing that the only reason I even bother playing anymore is the company of the people in my LS and friend list.

[Kyri]

I thought polls were much better of an idea myself. I dislike forums here its too negative The polls were a wonderful idea and it would be even better if perhaps, we had a once over poll option upon log on so that those who will no longer come to forums due to bad nature may vote and know about them as well. If we did, I dont know if I would come here to be honest ^^: