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  1. #81
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    Ilyrian's Avatar
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    Ilyrian Silvermoon
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by lvlagmarink View Post
    On a side note, there may be some players who actually play healers on pyros but dont actually want to heal because they fear of getting aggro.. i begin to meet healers in my past parties who actually will not heal or raise anybody despite we were trying to spawn NM.. they only cast their dps spell and heal themself.. on one ocassion, I actually experienced a healer who kept casting stone IV while some RDMs and other jobs were casting vercure and cure L actions on me in trying to spawn the level 50 NM..
    Well you're talking about different issues.
    Healing your party during a NM is basically a death sentence if a) your party are hitting the adds that b) muppets have dragged into combat with them.
    If you have a decent group and people are generally clued up, it is OK to heal - but ultimately resing is much better overall as most high-end mobs are one shot kills anyway.

    The issue you had with your healer (in your group?): just sounds like they were a baddie.
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  2. #82
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    There's another rather significant issue with getting logograms, which is that at max level, there are no sprites that drop mitigative logograms.

    There are multiple sources of them prior to that, but only inimical logograms drop from 50-55 sprites post-adaptation, which seems like a pretty big oversight.

    The only way you can get them in large quantities at 50 is by level syncing using a NM then killing whatever appropriate sprites can be found in their vicinity.
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  3. #83
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    If I'm not actually currently working on a relic, is it a good idea to step into Pagos/Pyros or not?

    I'm contemplating just leveling up, but not grinding beyond that.

    Would I still be making progress towards future relic steps (acquiring items, etc.) or would I be "wasting" a lot of work by doing it without a relic in progress at the time?
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  4. #84
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    Lastelli's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    If I'm not actually currently working on a relic, is it a good idea to step into Pagos/Pyros or not?

    I'm contemplating just leveling up, but not grinding beyond that.
    The relic and a couple of rare items (including 2 mounts, 2 emotes, a few tt cards, minions and some recycled glamour) are the only interesting rewards eureka has to offer. There's also a (very weak and badly narrated) story. If you're not interested in any of this, there's little point doing eureka. This content doesn't include new and interesting mechanics. Even the logos actions have very little utility.
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  5. #85
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    Nihility's Avatar
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I half-wish they made the logograms untradable simply to make the lazy players suffer, since there's little keeping you from just AFKing to a weapon like every other Eureka instance.
    I'd be totally cool with that if outleveling the sprites dropping them wasn't thing
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  6. #86
    Player Fourbestintoner's Avatar
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    Masamune
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    Black Mage Lv 42
    I already can't wait for pyros to die so I won't have to fight against 136+ people for literally anything.
    10% chance of getting a bunny, impossible to farm logos because of people killing the nms or trying to steal the sprites.
    Just let us make our own private instances thanks, the less people in my instances the better, maybe then offensive won't be 2m on the mb.
    It never was a problem in anemos and pagos but in pyros anyone outside of my party is basically a nuisance.
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    Last edited by Fourbestintoner; 11-11-2018 at 08:27 AM.

  7. #87
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    Listrella's Avatar
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    Astrella Riverstar
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 90
    is definately much faster than last time, at this point i'm almost finished, I have my relic, I've unlocked the relic armor and am in the progress of getting the gear needed for the crystals and only have a bit of light grinding to do get the stats, at this point in pagos' release I was still struggling to level up and would continue to do so for another week. Also farming out logoscopes makes things a bit more interesting than simply doing fates constantly and bunny fates are actually useful unlike they were in pagos.
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  8. #88
    Player BristolRuss's Avatar
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    J'azih Dahj
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I half-wish they made the logograms untradable simply to make the lazy players suffer, since there's little keeping you from just AFKing to a weapon like every other Eureka instance.
    This, but I'm actually making serious bank out of lazy people buying my Logograms and other Pyros goods, so I kind of want it to continue as well.
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  9. #89
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    lvlagmarink's Avatar
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    Magmarink Dragregory
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    Moogle
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    Well you're talking about different issues.
    Healing your party during a NM is basically a death sentence if a) your party are hitting the adds that b) muppets have dragged into combat with them.
    If you have a decent group and people are generally clued up, it is OK to heal - but ultimately resing is much better overall as most high-end mobs are one shot kills anyway.

    The issue you had with your healer (in your group?): just sounds like they were a baddie.
    You probably misunderstand here.

    What I said was "... we were trying to spawn NM..." as in we were killing the val bloodgliders to spawn the level 50 Penthesilea NM, there were two tanks in our party and both died from Val Bloodgliders auto attack because the healer was just spamming stone IV. I wouldn't personally know what these healers motives behind not healing at all, hence why i'm just assuming things, but at the very least even the worst baddies healers i have found in dungeons would at least try to heal or raise the party.. this specific healer i mentioned of (the worst kind of eureka healer i've encountered) wouldnt even cast protect even after being asked..

    And I'm saying this as a comparison of what I experienced in all three of eurekas because I'm soloing a lot as a warrior. Even when I was tanking The NMs in anemos and pagos, healers who werent actually in a party with me would ocassionally heal me.. but this kind of thing is very rare to happen in Pyros..
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  10. #90
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    ElazulHP's Avatar
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    Inigo Meowtoya
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Well... I've gotten to level 50, got my PLD relic, done the 50 logograms, got the emote, got the hair, got the horns, and two of the minions(Calca & the Dhalmel). That I know of I still need to get the Fending Armor since I like the way it looks and the mount. Overall, I'd say I'm enjoying myself MUCH more than I was in Pagos. The layers of RNG are really annoying at times even if I understand why they did it. There is especially no way i'm going to sit and do substats for the relic when my tombstone gear already outshines it. The feel of the grind is much more tolerable in Pyros even with the multiple RNG layers. The atmosphere is also much improved imo. It's much easier to find a group too since quite a few people are bouncing around between the two bunny fates and whatever NM's spawn. The lower level to attune to the aetherites was also much appreciated and facilitated movement much easier. Overall, it'd say its more like Anemos in feel and i'm actually finding that i'm enjoying myself.
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