So, how is Pyros?

[lvlagmarink]

I gotta agree on some points Rufalus wrote there, the chaos data center shout toxicity is getting more and more chaotic in pyros, imo it's even exceeding those in anemos or pagos.. players were whinning upon fate being pulled too soon because they were doing bunny fates which pops more regularly than NM fates, despite them doing nothing but afk when there are no active fates on the map.

And when they come upon the fate itself, they will bring nothing but more flocks of stray enemies to the NM so any other players will get tagged by the aggro instead of them being considerate and die on the sides so the mobs will get reset.. now I'm mostly playing tank and i tried to kill these stray mobs by myself because getting gold credit is easy enough as a tank even in solo.. but they barely even help killing these stray mobs they brought upon us and would prefer to get to the safe place, afk and move to other fate once they pop up..

Bunny fates giving exp may have been a mistake in this case, but who am I to say if the norms are those inconsiderate toxic players, i'm all against the odd here..

As for raising players, I often tend to choose who to raise these days around based on their shout, if not i'll just ignore them and they can hate me or whatever, i won't care

On a side note, there may be some players who actually play healers on pyros but dont actually want to heal because they fear of getting aggro.. i begin to meet healers in my past parties who actually will not heal or raise anybody despite we were trying to spawn NM.. they only cast their dps spell and heal themself.. on one ocassion, I actually experienced a healer who kept casting stone IV while some RDMs and other jobs were casting vercure and cure L actions on me in trying to spawn the level 50 NM..

[Ilyrian]

On a side note, there may be some players who actually play healers on pyros but dont actually want to heal because they fear of getting aggro.. i begin to meet healers in my past parties who actually will not heal or raise anybody despite we were trying to spawn NM.. they only cast their dps spell and heal themself.. on one ocassion, I actually experienced a healer who kept casting stone IV while some RDMs and other jobs were casting vercure and cure L actions on me in trying to spawn the level 50 NM..

Well you're talking about different issues.
Healing your party during a NM is basically a death sentence if a) your party are hitting the adds that b) muppets have dragged into combat with them.
If you have a decent group and people are generally clued up, it is OK to heal - but ultimately resing is much better overall as most high-end mobs are one shot kills anyway.

The issue you had with your healer (in your group?): just sounds like they were a baddie.

[lvlagmarink]

Well you're talking about different issues.
Healing your party during a NM is basically a death sentence if a) your party are hitting the adds that b) muppets have dragged into combat with them.
If you have a decent group and people are generally clued up, it is OK to heal - but ultimately resing is much better overall as most high-end mobs are one shot kills anyway.

The issue you had with your healer (in your group?): just sounds like they were a baddie.

You probably misunderstand here.

What I said was "... we were trying to spawn NM..." as in we were killing the val bloodgliders to spawn the level 50 Penthesilea NM, there were two tanks in our party and both died from Val Bloodgliders auto attack because the healer was just spamming stone IV. I wouldn't personally know what these healers motives behind not healing at all, hence why i'm just assuming things, but at the very least even the worst baddies healers i have found in dungeons would at least try to heal or raise the party.. this specific healer i mentioned of (the worst kind of eureka healer i've encountered) wouldnt even cast protect even after being asked..

And I'm saying this as a comparison of what I experienced in all three of eurekas because I'm soloing a lot as a warrior. Even when I was tanking The NMs in anemos and pagos, healers who werent actually in a party with me would ocassionally heal me.. but this kind of thing is very rare to happen in Pyros..

[CorbinDallas]

Well you're talking about different issues.
Healing your party during a NM is basically a death sentence if a) your party are hitting the adds that b) muppets have dragged into combat with them.
If you have a decent group and people are generally clued up, it is OK to heal - but ultimately resing is much better overall as most high-end mobs are one shot kills anyway.

The issue you had with your healer (in your group?): just sounds like they were a baddie.

This is too relatable. I gave up healing or using any aoe during fates because most people who are there don't have a clue how to ignore and/or de-aggro extra mobs that are pulled in. What pisses me off more are the people who intentionally pull their adds into the thick of the action to get rid of the aggro, which just causes issues for everyone else. Just let them kill you and be raised.