4.45 patch notes

[Zephera]

I'm dead certain they'll have found a way to make Pyros even more miserable than Pagos. Here's at least hoping the map is a little more easily navigable but I bet the RNG on everything will be just as bad, if not worse.

[Kusanagi7]

seriously no dragon roadblocks plz -_-

[DuskTS]

Pyros looks just as bad/worse than Pagos from what I've gleaned. I want to be wrong about this assumption so badly.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I'm dead certain they'll have found a way to make Pyros even more miserable than Pagos. Here's at least hoping the map is a little more easily navigable but I bet the RNG on everything will be just as bad, if not worse.

Reddit has been... at work. Uh... it isn't pretty. Let's just say... you thought Pagos was a grind. Oh boy. We got next level RNG because Yoshida wasn't kidding about re-rolling secondaries.

[swiss_Momo]

well, I've seen the datmined gear sets and the pyros map
on top of the laughable ilvl 8 weeks into the tier and the RNG substats grinding, this feels worse than any "out of season April's Fool joke"

yup, Eureka and the SB relic are definitely dead to me

[Lanthalas]

I just notice there is again a TT card only obteneable with last boss which will have an abyssimal drop rate like louhi that I am still waiting for after 27louhi (some people 35-40 louhi still no card...). The component of louhi is exchangeable with cristal but TT card? Nope. Drop rate up? Nope. Wondering if will be able to get it now that less people will be doing louhi... give us other way to get it or put it in chest please T_T.

Otherwise for new relic wondering if getting a given number of logos willnot just only unlock the next step of farming for relic and not directly unlock an upgrade.

[ElazulHP]

Reddit has been... at work. Uh... it isn't pretty. Let's just say... you thought Pagos was a grind. Oh boy. We got next level RNG because Yoshida wasn't kidding about re-rolling secondaries.

From what I'm reading over at Reddit there is another TWO light grinds. One of which is a light grind is to randomize relic stats. The other is for "Logos Action Fusion"? I may have that last one wrong.

Either way my reaction:

[Artorias]

My reaction to all this Eureka/Pyros Garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

Tbh maybe i'm the only one, but ffs i want somehow a new Director and a new Dev team. Instead of listing at the Community to make Eureka kinda fun no they just do what they want lol. I feel so betrayed.. I enjoyed doing Relic weapons back in ARR and HW but this time nope, just nope~ dont want to bother with this Garbage. They should use this resources for a new Ultimate fight would be a better investment.

[Zephera]

Reddit has been... at work. Uh... it isn't pretty. Let's just say... you thought Pagos was a grind. Oh boy. We got next level RNG because Yoshida wasn't kidding about re-rolling secondaries.

Yeah, just read about that. Pagos RNG was already stretching people's patience with content that felt unrewarding but the idea of re-rolling stats and potentially ending up with worse stats is going to kill player confidence exceedingly fast.

Also, apparently the map for Pyros is even more hostile to player navigation than Pagos's map. Heard the corridors are worse than the Pagos dragon pathways.

EDIT: Oh yeah, weapon is ilvl 385 and armour is ilvl 380 so it's pretty much DoA anyway.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

From what I'm reading over at Reddit there is another TWO light grinds. One of which is a light grind is to randomize relic stats. The other is for "Logos Action Fusion"? I may have that last one wrong.

Either way my reaction:

Yep. It looks like the Logos Actions are also locked behind RNG. Looks a bit more forgiving but still more RNG. They've also moved to role based armor not upgraded AF. It's... well...