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    Don Tonberry Instanced Battle


    The Concept
    So I had an idea for a Boss fight and accompanying quest line that would bring some fun and unique elements to the table by playing on the existing mechanics, while at the same time bringing back some classic Final Fantasy monsters, offering options that will help keep crafters in high demand, and possibly help with the currently abyssmal item drop rate (You know it's true lol), without overhauling anything. Below I will be outlining the following concepts: Boss design/mechanics; multiple quest lines; weapon/armor/item rewards and mechanics; story relations and more. Please forgive the crude sketches as they are for design purposes only.

    Weapons/Items/Armor
    I'm going to be covering just the basic design and stats of this items here first to get them out of the way, as the methods of obtaining them will be covered in the quest and battle sections.
    • Damascus Blade - Unique - "The rare metal used in this cleaver displays an unprecidented level of skill in metallurgy."
      • This is the drop item from the chest at the end of the battle. Only 1 can be posessed at a time and it IS tradable.
    • JOB Mastery Seal - Unique - "A crest constructed of an extremely rare metal issued by the Blacksmith's guild for mastery in this role."
      • This is the item recieved in exchange for the Damascus Blade during the weapon quest line. Only 1 can be posessed at a time and it IS tradable. There is 1 available for each Disciple of War and Disciple of Magic class. Ex: Lancer's Mastery Seal
    • Rancorous JOB Weapon Plans - Unique - "Inspirational designs for a most diabolical weapon."
      • This item is crafted by a R50 Blackmsith using 1 Damascus Blade + 1 JOB Mastery Seal. Essentially 2 Damascus Blade will be needed for this final product. Only 1 can be posessed at a time and it IS tradable. There is 1 available for each Disciple of War and Disciple of Magic class. Ex: Rancorous Lancer's Weapon Plans
    • Hecteyes Liver - Key Item - "The organs of a Hecteyes are considered a delicacy to many denizens of the lower wilds."
      • This key item is a drop from one of the Lamia NMs for the starting quest. There are 5 key items in all. Can be exchanged to an NPC for Tonberry Bait.
    • Hecteyes Heart - Key Item - "The organs of a Hecteyes are considered a delicacy to many denizens of the lower wilds."
      • This key item is a drop from one of the Lamia NMs for the starting quest. There are 5 key items in all. Can be exchanged to an NPC for Tonberry Bait.
    • Hecteyes Lungs - Key Item - "The organs of a Hecteyes are considered a delicacy to many denizens of the lower wilds."
      • This key item is a drop from one of the Lamia NMs for the starting quest. There are 5 key items in all. Can be exchanged to an NPC for Tonberry Bait.
    • Hecteyes Shank - Key Item - "The organs of a Hecteyes are considered a delicacy to many denizens of the lower wilds."
      • This key item is a drop from one of the Lamia NMs for the starting quest. There are 5 key items in all. Can be exchanged to an NPC for Tonberry Bait.
    • Hecteyes Eye Cluster - Key Item - "The organs of a Hecteyes are considered a delicacy to many denizens of the lower wilds."
      • This key item is a drop from one of the Lamia NMs for the starting quest. There are 5 key items in all. Can be exchanged to an NPC for Tonberry Bait.
    • Hecteyes Eye - Untradable - "To some it tastes like candy. Yum!"
      • These are stackable regular items dropped from Hecteyes mobs used in exchange for Tonberry Bait after completion of the initial quest.


    • Tonberry's Lantern - Unique - Shield
      Requires: R50
      Suits: All Jobs
      Block 90 Block Rate 130
      Additional Effect: Flame Spikes (Fire damage reflected back on successful blocks.)
      Blunt Damage
      • Crafted by a R50 Alchemist using 1 Damascus Blade + 1 Tallow Candle + 1 Brimstone + 1 Clear Glass Lens. Only 1 can be posessed at a time and it IS tradable.
    • Damascus Crown - Unique - Head
      Requires: R50
      Suits: All Jobs
      DEF 100 -10 Evasion -5 AGI
      Item Drop Rate +20% (1.2x modifier to base rates, stackable to 200% - Ex: 1% drop rate item with full set of gear is now a 2% drop rate)
      • Crafted by a R50 Goldsmith using 1 Damascus Blade + 1 Gold Ingot. Only 1 can be posessed at a time and it IS tradable.
    • Damascus Chain Robe - Unique - Body
      Requires: R50
      Suits: All Jobs
      DEF 200 -10 Evasion -5 AGI
      Item Drop Rate +20% (1.2x modifier to base rates, stackable to 200% - Ex: 1% drop rate item with full set of gear is now a 2% drop rate)
      • Crafted by a R50 Armorer using 1 Damascus Blade + 1 Cobalt Rings. Only 1 can be posessed at a time and it IS tradable.
    • Damascus Chain Hose - Unique - Legs
      Requires: R50
      Suits: All Jobs
      DEF 140 -10 Evasion -5 AGI
      Item Drop Rate +20% (1.2x modifier to base rates, stackable to 200% - Ex: 1% drop rate item with full set of gear is now a 2% drop rate)
      • Crafted by a R50 Leatherworker using 1 Damascus Blade + 1 Boar Leather. Only 1 can be posessed at a time and it IS tradable.
    • Damascus Short Gloves - Unique - Hands
      Requires: R50
      Suits: All Jobs
      DEF 80 -10 Evasion -5 AGI
      Item Drop Rate +20% (1.2x modifier to base rates, stackable to 200% - Ex: 1% drop rate item with full set of gear is now a 2% drop rate)
      • Crafted by a R50 Weaver using 1 Damascus Blade + 1 Undyed Felt. Only 1 can be posessed at a time and it IS tradable.
    • Damascus Clogs - Unique - Feet
      Requires: R50
      Suits: All Jobs
      DEF 80 -10 Evasion -5 AGI
      Item Drop Rate +20% (1.2x modifier to base rates, stackable to 200% - Ex: 1% drop rate item with full set of gear is now a 2% drop rate)
      • Crafted by a R50 Carpenter using 1 Damascus Blade + 1 Rosewood Lumber. Only 1 can be posessed at a time and it IS tradable.

    Weapons: All weapons contain an additional effect I am calling "Rancor." When it procs, Rancor is a non-elemental, unresisted set amount of magic damage based on your enmity level.
    • Green - 10 points of damage.
    • Yellow - 25 points of damage.
    • Red - 40 points of damage.
    • Flashing Red - 50 points of damage.
    Example: Gladiator A has Flashing Red Enmity and Rancor procs on his auto-attack against Ifrit. He does 6+50 points of damage for a total of 56. Lancer A has Yellow Enmity and hits Ifrit for 15, his Rancor procs and does an additional 25 points of damage. Lancer B has Green Enmity and hits Ifrit for 16, his Rancor procs and does 10 points of damage.
    • Tonberry's Grudge Bladebow - Unique/Untradable
      Requires: R50 ARC
      95 DMG 4s Delay Crit Rate+30 Enmity-15
      Additional Effect: Rancor
      Number of Attacks: 1
      Projectile Damage
    • Tonberry's Grudge Knife - Unique/Untradable
      Requires: R50 GLA
      95 DMG 2.4s Delay Crit Rate+30 Enmity+15
      Additional Effect: Rancor
      Number of Attacks: 1
      Slashing Damage
    • Tonberry's Grudge Trident - Unique/Untradable
      Requires: R50 LNC
      142 DMG 3.6s Delay Crit Rate+30 Enmity-15
      Additional Effect: Rancor
      Number of Attacks: 1
      Piercing Damage
    • Tonberry's Grudge Bhuj - Unique/Untradable
      Requires: R50 MRD
      165 DMG 4.1s Delay Crit Rate+30 Enmity+15
      Additional Effect: Rancor
      Number of Attacks: 1
      Slashing Damage
    • Tonberry's Grudge Claws - Unique/Untradable
      Requires: R50 PUG
      120 DMG 2.9s Delay Crit Rate+30 Enmity+15
      Additional Effect: Rancor
      Number of Attacks: 1
      Blunt Damage
    • Tonberry's Grudge Lantern Staff - Unique/Untradable
      Requires: R50 CNJ
      55 DMG 3.9s Delay Healing Magic Potency+30 Enmity-15
      Additional Effect: Rancor
      Number of Attacks: 1
      Blunt Damage
    • Tonberry's Grudge Scepter - Unique/Untradable
      Requires: R50 THM
      40 DMG 2.9s Delay Magic Crit Potency+30 Enmity-15
      Additional Effect: Rancor
      Number of Attacks: 1
      Blunt Damage


    Don Tonberry - The Boss Fight
    The fight itself is pretty straightforward, there's one large Tonberry with a crown on his head and he slowly shuffles around the battlefield, dashing quickly to his targets every time he attacks. What will make this fight fun, challenging, and memorable are the Enmity and damage mechanics, as well as the asthetic details. Here I'll explain.

    Don Tonberry - No Elemental Weakness - High Physical Defense - High Magic Resistance - Vulnerable to Debuffs
    Time Limit: 30 minutes Retry Timer: 5 minutes Victory Timer: 15 minutes
    Achievement for Winning: Grudge Settler; Title: Wiseguy
    • Regular Attacks
      • Don Tonberry's regular attacks deal damage in proportion to his target's Enmity level (as a numerical value, not by color) - Variable Damage "Doink!"
    • Special Attacks
      • Imminent Rancor: TP; Single Target; High Damage: Deals damage in relation to 200% Enmity (as a numerical value) to the target with the second highest Enmity. Resets Enmity for that target only.
      • Shared Grudge: TP; Area of Effect; Low Damage: Deals damage in relation to 25% Enmity of the highest Enmity target to all targets within a circle range of that target, and resets Enmity for the highest Enmity target only.
      • Everyone's Rancor: TP; Area of Effect; Medium Damage: Deals damage in relation to 50% Enmity of each target individually to all targets regardless of range and resets all Enmity to Green.
      • Absolute Grudge: 50%HP Mark 1-Time Ability; Special Damage: Drops everyone's HP to 1 regardless of current HP, Buffs, Range, or Enmity and fully resets Enmity on all targets.
    • Dialogue
      • Depending on the ability Don Tonberry is about to use, he will recite a line of dialogue as a 3 second warning before using the move.
        • Imminent Rancor - "Don't think I've forgotten about you.."
        • Shared Grudge - "You're all as much to blame.."
        • Everyone's Rancor - "It's time to reap what you've sown.."
        • Absolute Grudge - "The end is nigh.."

    At the conclusion of the fight a chest will appear in the same manner as the Primal battles. The chest may contain a Damascus Blade per adventurer.

    The Questline
    I could write all the exact dialogue for each quest if asked, but for the sake of condensing this section I plan on just outlining the general idea of the story.

    Quest Start
    Keeping in tradition with the previous instance battles I figured that Louisoix was as good of a start as any. The quest can be started anytime after achieving the Grand Company Rank of Sergeant Third Class.
    • Reward: ~2000XP ~300GC Seals
    • Louisoix explains that due to the catastrophic events that have been occuring as a result of the coming of the Seventh Umbral Era, the Lamia (You know what these are! ) have run low on hunting grounds for food resources and have started encroaching on Mistbeard Cove. While the invading Lamia have been small in numbers and perfectly manageable, you have been tasked with traveling to Mistbeard Cove to investigate something strange that has been reported as a result. Unusual creatures have been seen stalking around the Cove and fighting with the Lamia, but seem to disappear without a trace before anyone can determine what they are or where they've come from.
    • Upon arriving in Mistbeard Cove you will notice a new NPC near the Aetherial Gate named Bucaneer's Servant standing in front of what appears to be a small tunnel in the wall surrounded by tiny footprints. Next to this NPC is a ??? that when examined states "The tracks of some small creature can be seen all over the floor." There will also be new Hecteyes monsters in various places in the Cove, as well as 5 Lamia NMs. Bucaneer's Servant confirms the rumors that the Lamia have been fighting something, and that the men have been whispering rumors of legendary Tonberries. He suspects that beyond this small tunnel lies the Tonberry's home, and asks you to gather the organs of a Hecteyes so he may craft some Tonberry Bait. He further states that the Hecteyes are the Tonberry's favorite food, and that the Lamia have been hunting Hecteyes, making them scarce. He suggests finding a Lamia in order to procure the Hecteyes organs, and explains that he will need 1 each of a Hecteyes Heart, Hecteyes Liver, Hecteyes Lungs, Hecteyes Shank, and Hecteyes Eye Cluster to make the bait.
    • Your task now is to hunt down and kill the 5 Lamia NMs to obtain the 5 key items. Each Lamia you kill when attempting this quest for the first time will have an accompanying cutscene at the conclusion of the fight where a normal (no crown) Tonberry appears and finishes off the Lamia. It will then start chowing down on the Hecteyes organ until it is startled and runs off when it notices you. After completing the quest at least once, the Lamia will no longer have cutscenes attached to them and will drop Hecteyes Eye's instead of the key items.
    • Once you have all 5 key items, return to Bucaneer's Servant and exchange them for a new key item, the Tonberry Bait. Examine the ??? while in posession of the Tonberry Bait to start the battle.
    • When repeating this quest, 10 Hecteyes Eye's may be exchanged for the Tonberry Bait key item. In addition to the Lamia NMs, Hecteyes may also drop this item whether you have started or completed the quest or not.

    Obtaining Weapons
    • Speaking to Louisoix while in posession of a Damascus Blade AFTER completing the main quest at least once will trigger another dialogue option where he comments on the blade and the rareity of the metal, and suggests that you take the item to the Blacksmith's Guild in Limsa Lominsa.
    • Speaking with the head of the Blacksmith's Guild in Limsa Lominsa while in posession of a Damascus Blade AFTER completing the main quest at least once, as a R50 Job will trigger the option to have the item made into a JOB Mastery Seal. The NPC will comment that with some extra material and enough skill, a Blacksmith may be able to create something spectacular using the seal and materials as inspiration.
    • A R50 Blacksmith may now combine the JOB Mastery Seal and another Damascus Blade to make Rancorous JOB Weapon Plans. Speaking with the head of the Blacksmith's Guild again with one of these in your posession and requesting the weapon be synthesized will trigger dialogue about how no Blacksmith in their right mind would attempt to create a weapon so vile, and that none here have the skill to attempt it anyway.
    • Speaking to the other NPCs in the guild will hint that a legendary blacksmith once left the guild over an arguement about his weapons being "creations of evil." He was last seen in the U'ghamaro Mines.
    • In the U'ghamaro Mines, once past the first gate and near the Southwestern coffer you will find an NPC by the name of Marasame. He is the legendary blacksmith spoken of and has traveled to the mines to learn the weaponizing mechanical secrets of the Kobolds. Offer him the Rancorous JOB Weapon Plans and he will gladly craft the appropriate weapon for you.

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    So that's pretty much the idea I had in a nutshell. I know what you're thinking, compensation right? Well actually the best compensation would be to see this be made and come to life. Though an exclusive in-game title of "The Godfather" and a Lodestone History achievement for creating this would be awesome. And I wouldn't be opposed to a job offer either haha!

    If my fellow adventurers have read this far and would like to see this idea come to life, please "thumbs-up" my post and make it known. Devs if you read this and like the idea, lemme know. <(^_^)>

    Happy adventuring all!
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    WoW o.o you put a lot of thought into this i like a lot of the weps also great job.
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    Holy cow. You put a lot of work into this, Cuppycakes. This is really awesome. :3 /swoon

    It'll probably never make it into the game, but a Lala can dream!
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    Nice work, it is very well thought out.
    I just have an issue with primal items being tradable.
    Personally I believe if you can't kill it yourself you don't deserve the loot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss View Post
    Nice work, it is very well thought out.
    I just have an issue with primal items being tradable.
    Personally I believe if you can't kill it yourself you don't deserve the loot.
    Thanks for the input everyone, I'm glad to see people like the idea. I just wanted to point out that only the craftable items are tradeable, and to exchange items for the weapons you have to have completed the quest at least once. I felt this made it easier to obtain the weapon you want rather than relying completely on blind luck, while still keeping it difficult. I agree with you though and I almost overlooked it but caught it as I was typing up the post.
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    wait my tonberry the planet or me?

    Definitely.... yes
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    i would definitely love to fight him, and nice drawings man. if they didn't alrdy plan for it, maybe thanks to you we'll get a tonberry fight later on.
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    Isnt this subforum for Website Feedback & Suggestions?
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    I like your weapon designs except I think for the gladiator item you should somehow implement something a bit more elaborate for the design, or possibly have a shield instead of a sword? (It would be interesting to attack with a shield I guess? lol) All the others implement the lamp so I think whatever gladiators would get should do the same.

    Edit: An idea could be a curving blade that has a small lantern hanging in it or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaena View Post
    I like your weapon designs except I think for the gladiator item you should somehow implement something a bit more elaborate for the design, or possibly have a shield instead of a sword? (It would be interesting to attack with a shield I guess? lol) All the others implement the lamp so I think whatever gladiators would get should do the same.

    Edit: An idea could be a curving blade that has a small lantern hanging in it or something.
    Thanks for the input. =) The idea was to have the regular tonberry knife as the GLA weapon, with the lantern as the shield.

    Also thank you to everyone else for the feedback and comments, I just wish we'd see a developer response. =)
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