LuckyBancho Census 11/3

[Bourne_Endeavor]

80,000 active characters, gone. That is a substantial drop. Were I to speculate on the cause. Unlike Heavensward, every veteran player knows the devs have virtually nothing on the horizon outside the standard release for what will amount to a 9-10 month life cycle for content that can barely keep seven months going.

It doesn't help with nothing else coming except our usual 24 Man, EX and etc, people are even less motivated about gear progression or raiding. Plenty of raiders amongst my circle have either killed Alphascape a couple times or aren't bothering until near the end of the expansion because the gear means nothing.

Arguably the bigger factor here though, is Pagos. It looks the general assumption from the last census was correct. People returned to see what Pagos might be like... and they never came back. Perhaps that will serve an eye opener for the sheer disdain people have towards Eureka and how it has panned out. Pyros could turn things around but it doesn't appear a good amount of people are willing to see it through on release day but maybe wait for word of mouth.

Either way, I'll be curious to see if those numbers climb come 4.5 or if the lack of content pushes even more away as we settle into the long six month drought thereafter.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tone_data_113/

[BunnyChain]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=356399252


The usual cycle, compared to 2 years before we have ~50k more active characters, but then again more people could have made alts in the meantime.

[Lastelli]

They made 2 big mistakes:

1) No new ultimate. This means raiders know that savage gear is totally useless (just bragging rights really) unless they do log runs and speedruns, but even then they won't do that for more than 2-3 months;
2) Eureka.

As things are right now, casual players and raiders don't have much to work on, unless for some reason they love Eureka. On the other hand, this situation is kinda ok for those people that have yet to clear the unending coil and/or uwu. I expect those numbers to drop a lot in the next few months, with a temporary jump for the next 24-players raid.

[Canadane]

Hot take: Eureka mechanics should be in the main game.
It'd change up the pace enough to make it interesting again. At least, the overworld.

[Vaer]

Fanfest to the rescue.

Looks alright. There are still (barely) more active players than the expansion low of 536k where they bled 262k characters over a couple months until Anemos released where it spiked 86k. Lost about 30k more this time than the usual 40-50k bleed in the recent patch dead period. Still (barely) more than 4.2-4.21 when there was no Eureka/HoH. Somewhat interesting.

[SenorPatty]

Yeah that's not a surprising number if look at what's being offered from January and then on. All I can say is that it will be an excellent time for everyone to take your break, play the games that have been collecting dust and come back for the expansion if it pleases you.

For once, Yoshida's advice actually seems to be the best choice for the incoming drought.

[Gin_Gray]

Pretty much everyone I know who raids including myself are just raid logging. Cleared Alpha more then a month ago so uwu farms or ucob till it stale sadly

[Alestorm]

Considering how bad Blazzcon is going, weay get another influx of people soon.

[Aster_E]

Hot take: Eureka mechanics should be in the main game.
It'd change up the pace enough to make it interesting again. At least, the overworld.

It'll change things up again, by making the overall population more spiteful and desolate, and making more people say, "Here, you can have my house, I'm done." At least that's my speculation on that idea.

[RitsukoSonoda]

It'll change things up again, by making the overall population more spiteful and desolate, and making more people say, "Here, you can have my house, I'm done." At least that's my speculation on that idea.

Would be a mixed reaction. Though I feel smart players probably wouldn't really notice much of a change tbh you would have a lot of complaining/quitting from people with no common sense though. At the same time It may attract players from ffxi that have avoided this game because of how, for lack of a better term, "dumbed down" ffxiv is compared to it.

In regards to pagos specifically I think a overwhelming majority of the player dissatisfaction is actually the map layout of the zone itself and that single choke that has to be taken to travel to any of the northern areas on foot. Though I also feel like it could be improved significantly just by doing something as simple as removing lvl requirements to attune to the aetherytes in eureka in general. Let it be a reward for making it there even if you are far below the lvl of the monsters there.