why? pyros is 4.4, the last isntallment will be 4.5(.55555)
why? pyros is 4.4, the last isntallment will be 4.5(.55555)


I'm almost convinced that Seiryu will be a personal trial or dungeon boss, and Kohryu will be the 8-man. I really don't expect them to give us 8 trials/trial sets/trial mounts when we had 7 in HW. Other than that, I agree that Ivalice #3, MSQ, 1-3 dungeons (MSQ, Seiryu(?), HM(?)), United tribes, and Eureka #4 all make sense for a single patch, especially a last patch of the cycle. After all, 4.3 had Heaven on High, Anemos, UWU, Swallow's Compass, Tsukuyomi, and Namazu.
So current expectations I have past what has been shown for 4.5 so far.
Seiryu and possibly kohryu from the lords quest line. implementation of this is up to question since genbu was actually a duty boss
3rd installment of ivalice
A primal battle with Amaterasu, that would be the 3rd of the big 3 in Japanese mythology as we have already had Tsukiyomi and Susano-o
Closure of the hildebrand quest line
ATM I don't have expectations of an eureka zone after pyros but it is possible given that eureka itself was delayed which is probably the main cause of the relics being a bit behind other content in regards to ilvl currently.
There is currently only 2 duties in the current expert roulette so we should be due 1 more at this tier. Given the ilvl of the gear in the current tier we could easily have 1 more tier of tomestones after this.


I highly doubt we're going to get another non-4 lords trial. We might, they could always surprise me, but what we have with Tsuku matches so far with HW, where Nidhogg was the final MSQ trial, halfway through post 3.0, and the rest of it was the Warring Triad. I do agree Amaterasu would be nice - she is the third to Susano-o & Tsukuyomi, as you say (what I wouldn't give to see primals for Izanagi and Izanami!) but that puts us at 8 trials at the very least since there's no way they'd make Kohryu, the "big bad" that was held by the Four Lords, a personal trial or a dungeon boss. (Now that I think about it, since we succeeded with Genbu, Byakko, and Suzaku, it's quite possible that Seiryu will be a "no-go" and not even come down to a fight, which would be why we had to fight Kohryu, else we would have succeeded in taming their ara-mitama but failed in the final mission, which would be a bummer. Plus, it would get Seiryu "out of the way".)
They've also said they're "done" with Doma in the MSQ (although it will remain in the form of Hien & Yugiri, ofc, just not be focused on it.) I think it would be very odd to have Amaterasu as a primal when we're dealing with Gyr Abania, plus I can't really imagine how she would fit in with the current predicament the scions are in.
I'd be happy to be surprised, I'm a massive geek when it comes down to eastern mythology, but I really can't see it fitting in.


I could see that, but I don't expect there to be an extreme version. If anything it's going to be in the Hildibrand storyline, a la Greg. They didn't give us one in the HW Hildi, did they? I don't remember if we even had to fight those Knights, and if we did it wasn't group. So it'd be nice if they brought that back. But as for a "primal"/extreme, I highly doubt it.
Sadly, we didnt get any Hilli-trials after the last battle with Greg - apparently because people were to upset that they were "forced" to do the Hilli-quests to re-unloch their trials-roulette. And instead of changing how the roulettes work they just took the trials out of the Hilli-questline.I could see that, but I don't expect there to be an extreme version. If anything it's going to be in the Hildibrand storyline, a la Greg. They didn't give us one in the HW Hildi, did they? I don't remember if we even had to fight those Knights, and if we did it wasn't group. So it'd be nice if they brought that back. But as for a "primal"/extreme, I highly doubt it.
...I cant remember if we ever had to fight anyone during the HW-questline now - it might very well be that it was purely narrative.


Yojimbo is going to be the trial at Fan Fest, so we'd be lucky if we even get a proper trial for him.
Chances are they'll just randomly drop him into the last Ivalice raid, as a mini-boss.
I hope so. SB has been a dud. They invested too much in Eureka. I hope it doesn't get drawn out even more.



SB IMO is the worst expansion. Eureka is worst than diadem. And HoH isn’t impressive. Only good part is MSQ which I hope that is the only thing that 4.55 brings
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