Let’s discuss Dancer

[tinythinker]

I *personally* don't care if we get a new healer for Shadow, but, it really seems very unlikely their won't be a healer. DNC could be a dps if they were going to shock everyone with a third job, which seems highly unlikely. But in the end, it's all "wait and see", including how the new jobs will be conceptualized for gameplay.

[Ariel_Valmont]

TBH, my WTF is in case dance is a healer. I have no idea why someone thinks that some dance can heal.

Nataraja (dancing form of shiva) a fearless celebration of the joys of dance while being surrounded by fire, untouched by forces of ignorance and evil, signifying a spirituality that transcends all duality.

That embodies a healer archetype.

The Zar, the healing dance of the Middle East/northeastern Africa.

The bushmen in Southern Africa have healing dances.

Dance played/plays a significant role in the healing rituals of indigenous Americans.

Dance is being used as a treatment for ptsd.

Just a few examples, I’m sure I missed some.

[Mansion]

Well we got rid of the TP-based healer now, so Dancer could pretty much be a casting healer and use that gear. Healers must have access to Piety (at least in current stat pattern), so sharing a DPS gear would not make sense in that regard.

[Yanyami]

I'd see the dancer focused on channeling healing spells and positionning. So a mobile healer that would have to stay close or facing targets right to be able to unleash good healing and that would have some good mobility to help... add some instants healing for "oh shit" situations and you're done.

For the weapon i would have seen : Dagger in the main hand and a fan as a spell focus.

[Crushnight]

well with tp going every job might like piety who knows if do dancer can go on scouting be interesting to see

[Tint]

well with tp going every job might like piety who knows if do dancer can go on scouting be interesting to see

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However, none of the caster DDs has access to piety, so why should all jobs use piety when TP is gone, when not even the current casters use that stat?

Furthermore piety is the role exclusive stat for healers. It would be strange when they add a healer wich does not have his exclusive stat on the gear, but has with direct hit a stat wich does not affect healing at all.

There are also the healer role actions:

Largesse increases healing magic potency by 20%
Cleric Stance increases attack magic potency by 5%
Swiftcast and Surecast only affect casts
Lucid Dreaming is a MP regeneration tool
Then there are Break, Protect and Esuna, wich are all casts wich costs MP

In other words: Everything healer related caters to casters who use MP. They have to rework a lot to fit a non caster healer in.

[miraidensetsu]

Agreed. But Esuna costs as little as 600 MP@level 70. Protect and Break doesn't have any MP cost. But that doesn't change the fact that healers now are basicly casters (all of them are Disciples of the Magic).

An healer who's Disciple of the War would really means some major rework.

[Crushnight]

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However, none of the caster DDs has access to piety, so why should all jobs use piety when TP is gone, when not even the current casters use that stat?

true caster do not but we have no idea how losing tp for mp is going to affect all non DoM jobs if more mp = more dps then the fact all current DoW gear being able to meld piety might be useful again atm we don't know so its pure speculation

[Kupocoubo]

LB should be summoning a pole and then pole dancing to heal the party.

[miraidensetsu]

LB should be summoning a pole and then pole dancing to heal the party.

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