Let’s discuss Dancer

[jameseoakes]

How about every previous iteration of Dancer?

FFT they where entirely offensive (and very broken), Mogs dances in 6 where mostly offensive as well.

[MoroMurasaki]

FFT they where entirely offensive (and very broken), Mogs dances in 6 where mostly offensive as well.

They certainly aren't entirely offensive in FFT unless you consider things like mass-lowering of event starts to be entirely offensive.

[jameseoakes]

They certainly aren't entirely offensive in FFT unless you consider things like mass-lowering of event starts to be entirely offensive.

FFT the dancer debuffed and dealt damage while the Bard healed and buffed. I might have forgotten a few of the skills I guess, the status effect skill was so broken if I brought the Dancer along I just spammed that

[Yhisa]

Dancer wont be a healer role.... they have a major problem trying to balance the 3 healers we currently have.... or did people forget the mess in heavensward between the healers

Dancer will most likely be a Support role like bard/Mach to balance out bard abit more..... bard have a total of 11 support skills where mach only have 5 and i would like dancer to take away bards "crit up on songs and battle voice" away from bard and put them on dancer

Mach = Physical support
Bard = Magic Support
Dancer = Buff Support

Mach
Hyper charge / Dismantle/ refresh/ tactician / palisade

Bard
Foe Reqium / Troublejor / Palisade /tactican/ refresh

Dancer
Song buffs 3% crit / Battle voice / palisade / tactican / refresh

this way we have split up the 3 range support base on your group

mach = drg/war/ninja/mnk/drk/sam
bard = smn/blm/rdm/sch/pld
dancer = mixture of caster/physical

dancer suites the support role a lot more then a healer role because when you look in game we have the following

tanks = 3
healers = 3
Melee = 4
casters = 3
support = 2
Solo = 1 (blue mage)

the odd ones are caster and support roles.... so garentee the new job in 5.0 will be a caster or support job..... And no its not gunblade there is a major reason why thancred is using a garleon gunblade which is a MCH weapon to help him use aether since he has NO aether inside him (poor guy cannot even teleport or wield magic anymore)

[Seraphor]

They'd be crazy not to introduce a new tank and healer, its been 4 years since we've had any.
And the leaker was right about blue mage so there's no reason to doubt them about the gunblade tank job and dancer as a healer.

[Gemina]

Dancer wont be a healer role.... they have a major problem trying to balance the 3 healers we currently have.... or did people forget the mess in heavensward between the healers

Meh, I wouldn't call the current state of healers a major problem. It's definitely not so far out of whack that they can't bring in another healer. If they want to keep WHM as is, all they need to do is make it the SAM of healers, and not let SCH or AST even compete with their personal damage output. Done.

How DNC would fit in would matter most in relevant content. Content will be designed around its abilities and all the new abilities introduced for our current jobs. For everything else, it simply needs to be able to get the job done, and that's ezpz for the dev team.

Not to mention the outrage if more DPS jobs are introduced in the next expansion when healers and tanks have gone the last two years without a new one. It would literally be better to not bring in DNC at all if it isn't brought in as a healer.

[Jollyy5]

They'd be crazy not to introduce a new tank and healer, its been 4 years since we've had any.
And the leaker was right about blue mage so there's no reason to doubt them about the gunblade tank job and dancer as a healer.

Agreed, not to mention that there's just no way Thancred's weapon in the trailer wasn't a gunblade.

They might as well have outright confirmed Gunblader.

[tinythinker]

I *personally* don't care if we get a new healer for Shadow, but, it really seems very unlikely their won't be a healer. DNC could be a dps if they were going to shock everyone with a third job, which seems highly unlikely. But in the end, it's all "wait and see", including how the new jobs will be conceptualized for gameplay.

[Grimoire-M]

Dancer wont be a healer role.... they have a major problem trying to balance the 3 healers we currently have.... or did people forget the mess in heavensward between the healers

Dancer will most likely be a Support role like bard/Mach to balance out bard abit more..... bard have a total of 11 support skills where mach only have 5 and i would like dancer to take away bards "crit up on songs and battle voice" away from bard and put them on dancer

It's highly unlikely that Dancer will be a ranged support dps that's akin to Machinist and Bard. That is the least fitting role for them. A Dex-based melee DPS that's analogous to NIN (whose numbers fit a support DPS, albeit a melee one) or a Healer are the most likely options, and of the two, Healer is deigned to be more likely on these forums due to the connection to FFXI (and it's the Healer forums), but I personally doubt that it will be a melee-range Healer, if it is a Healer at all. We have yet to see what will happen.

[Maero]

Even the wiki says they were essentially front line healers.

I can very easily visualize them being healers with some melee attacks in FFXIV.

As can i, i would not mind that at all

And Gunblade, it can be either Tank or dps i think the job can work for both