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    Altera's Avatar
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    Stop putting everything unique in PVP/Eureka

    Please stop putting all the cool unique rewards into PVP and Eureka. If people are not engaging in this sort of content, then you should just cut the losses and redirect development time into types of content you see players actively engage in.

    I am getting fed up of having to do boring PVP/Eureka for unique housing items, hairstyles, minions and mounts, while PVE gets reskin or no rewards at all, and the one that are unique, are put on the cashshop.

    This sorta of situation XIV is in atm, is the exact reason that I ended up quitting WOW for after having played that for 7 years(2004-2011) The blizzard devs started putting more and more cool stuff on their blizzstore, and everything PVE rewards was recoloring of old mounts and such.

    Please SE/Yoshida/Devs, you are better than Blizzard.
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    Well I do agree with you there about the rewards being locked behind pvp and eureka, but sadly it's how they force people to play those features: without them even fewer players would care to do them and there aren't as many as you think!

    ...on the other note, I'm fairly sure the blizzstore only sells mounts and pets (16 pets and 12 mounts, 3 transmog helmets and 4 packs as of this message - i don't count services like name changing and such)) that while are not in game there are HUNDREDS of mounts and pets already to collect, some even cooler than the ones in the blizzstore imo.

    So yeah, I agree with your first point, but I'm fairly sure that most of the cool stuff in wow is still in game.

    Meanwhile most of the cool stuff in this game is in the shop, including emotes and dyes.
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    I agree about PvP because only 100 people are going to be able to get certain rewards, however, disagree about Eureka because everyone has equal access and a chance to snag the rewards if they put in the effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    I agree about PvP because only 100 people are going to be able to get certain rewards, however, disagree about Eureka because everyone has equal access and a chance to snag the rewards if they put in the effort.
    I agree with this sentiment.

    As much as I dislike Eureka, it's not a problem to put rewards behind it. There are rewards behind everything in this game, some you like, some you don't.
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    I agree that the locking of items behind commonly reviled things like eureka and pvp reeks of devs desperate to try and force players into unpopular content. I suspected it when items showed up behind wolf marks and I definitely suspect it now.

    It's true that dangling a carrot can help incentivize player to do content. We see it with raid gear, mounts, pretty much everything in the game. But locking pretty much every new item in eureka this patch just look super desperate. If you knew it was going to be so unpopular maybe you ought to have spent more time on it, or change directions altogether.
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    Eureka seems really popular to me the new zone are very full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Eureka seems really popular to me the new zone are very full.
    Its brand new, I would be amazed if the few who completed Pagos didn’t at least try to do Pyros. Following the trend of Anemos to Pagos the content will likely see the Eureka Dock in Kugane drop to near dead in 2 weeks time simalar to Pagos when it was 3 weeks in. Neither of those 2 will ever see the soaring activity at the dock like Mid-Anemos solely due to the fact that the community wont have a workaround to make the grind bearable and social like Anemos did.

    If they really want to funnel people into Pyros they should have added the Level Sync option and heavily nerfed Pagos as a whole, all these rewards are gonna do is little to nothing as people would rather gather the gil to grab it off the marketboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Eureka seems really popular to me the new zone are very full.
    Well, it is day 1 of Eureka Pyros

    And you will have people who completed/progressed through the last iteration of Eureka in it

    So...yes, it is "popular" by default just with these two conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    I agree about PvP because only 100 people are going to be able to get certain rewards, however, disagree about Eureka because everyone has equal access and a chance to snag the rewards if they put in the effort.
    Anyone who does PVP gets wolfmarks so everyone has equal opportunity to get the rewards from that. I'm not defending putting unique hair as pvp rewards, it sucks out my soul and I hate it, but your comment doesn't make sense to me.

    I also understand a lot of people don't like Eureka, those people don't have to do it either. I don't agree with SE's implementation of rewards from Eureka but I do agree that there should be certain items only available in it. It was the same with Diadem. Whether you like the content or not, you have to agree that having everything handed to you just makes those unique items not unique anymore. I don't really care for Eureka myself, but I do it because there are incentives for doing so. It's the same as farming birds or dogs or horse mounts from Primals. Not everyone likes learning Extreme content, but the reward is worth it.
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    Even if you do not like doing Eureka you can buy the items from the market board.
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