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    My static will be broken after 4.5, please consider pushing the changes to 5.0

    Our static is split between Brynhildr, Hyperion and Famfrit.

    6 people are from Bryn, one from Hyperion, and one from Famfrit.

    The majority of us cannot use the server transfer service because many of us will lose our FCs and personal connections.

    We are an average raid group, we run 4-6 hours a week...we got omega savage down to 35% since it was released. There is no way in hell we are clearing S12 before the end of january, especially since christmas will be a mini-break.

    I understand the need for a new data center, but can you PLEASE do this on 5.0 instead? It is going to be extremely difficult to replace permanent members late into the raid tier, we're willing to start a new raid group on the new expansion since its going to be a hard reset for the content.

    Please push this change before ruining our static's progression, thank you.

    Also let me clarify: Server Transfers are not an option, free or not...money is not the issue here. If people transfer they will have to choose between their FC or the static.
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    Please consider NOT DOING IT AT ALL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangar View Post
    Please consider NOT DOING IT AT ALL
    I don't want to lose anyone from my static either.

    I'll accept the fact that I might have to replace people in the future, but ideally it should be when a new raid tier starts, not in the middle of an existing one...thats my compromise if you can call it that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangar View Post
    Please consider NOT DOING IT AT ALL
    Not possible. Or rather, the only way it would be possible was if they managed to get a data center that was significantly larger and more powerful than what they have. But that's not very feasible. That would take years and by then the current ones could very well be fried. Not to mention the immense costs. Doubling the size of a datacenter costs more than doing two separate ones each worth half due to the fact that all the physical servers (and one server can be several, dozens or even hundredths of computers) need to be connected with each other properly. Something that takes time, high quality parts, a lot of logistics etc. The more stuff you need to connect together the more it costs. Just look at the hardware prices. You get a lot for every buck you pay between low and mid class hardware, but when you reach the high tier, the more you pay the less you get for your buck instead.

    And they cannot just make empty data centers while the old ones would burn either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zainy View Post
    Then do it right before 5.0, not in the middle of a raid tier.
    This is something I agree with though. It is close enough to the next expansion that they could try pushing it further. Unless there will be an immediate and significant benefit to this move, there is no reason not to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Not possible. Or rather, the only way it would be possible was if they managed to get a data center that was significantly larger and more powerful than what they have. But that's not very feasible. That would take years and by then the current ones could very well be fried. Not to mention the immense costs. Doubling the size of a datacenter costs more than doing two separate ones each worth half due to the fact that all the physical servers (and one server can be several, dozens or even hundredths of computers) need to be connected with each other properly. Something that takes time, high quality parts, a lot of logistics etc. The more stuff you need to connect together the more it costs. Just look at the hardware prices. You get a lot for every buck you pay between low and mid class hardware, but when you reach the high tier, the more you pay the less you get for your buck instead.

    And they cannot just make empty data centers while the old ones would burn either.
    I'm not buying this. They literally cited Balmung's congestion issue as part of their reason yet that instability only occurred during the initial two weeks after Stormblood launched. Their other excuse was the issues regarding Pipin and Raubahn except they created that mess themselves by foolishly putting an instance ten quests into the MSQ when there was no branching content to slow people down. Yoshida outright admitted it was their fault when they did it again during Delta/Sigma. Apparently, he just couldn't tell the dev team "no" because they were excited. Regardless, this whole reshuffle hinges on people not simply transferring back to Aether en masse. If that does happen, well, now they have the exact same problem they were trying to mitigate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangar View Post
    Please consider NOT DOING IT AT ALL
    This xInfinity

    This data center split has basically killed all interest fan fest might have generated, and we don't even have much time to process/make plans to mitigate how horrible this change is... What a complete disaster... Goes perfectly with the Shadowbringer trailer though, I assume this is the Calamity they mentioned and the whole idiotic idea is the history that needs to be unwritten.... 10/10 story telling, if nothing else!
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    I really hate the position Sqaure has put me in with this crap, just give me the damn stability issues I will tough it out just to stay in touch with people from Balmung.
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    It was bound to happen if we wanted better servers. Aether and Primal were unstable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    It was bound to happen if we wanted better servers. Aether and Primal were unstable.
    Then do it right before 5.0, not in the middle of a raid tier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    It was bound to happen if we wanted better servers. Aether and Primal were unstable.
    It was bound to happen because SE continues to be stubborn and not fix the netcode that causes data transfers that should not exist, and the fact they are using outdated tech for their servers (unless the netcode is really THAT bad to give a feel, whatever the case, they should be addressing THAT, not making players keep paying and paying for SE's shortcomings.

    4.5 is too soon on top of things we need time to plan if this is really the route going to be taken

    lastly the reimbursement of housing is way too small, and what about FC houses? I should be free to pick the server I need to go to without housing worries. SE is really falling short with this change and housing.

    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Not possible. Or rather, the only way it would be possible was if they managed to get a data center that was significantly larger and more powerful than what they have. But that's not very feasible. That would take years and by then the current ones could very well be fried. Not to mention the immense costs. Doubling the size of a datacenter costs more than doing two separate ones each worth half due to the fact that all the physical servers (and one server can be several, dozens or even hundredths of computers) need to be connected with each other properly. Something that takes time, high quality parts, a lot of logistics etc. The more stuff you need to connect together the more it costs. Just look at the hardware prices. You get a lot for every buck you pay between low and mid class hardware, but when you reach the high tier, the more you pay the less you get for your buck instead.

    And they cannot just make empty data centers while the old ones would burn either.

    This is something I agree with though. It is close enough to the next expansion that they could try pushing it further. Unless there will be an immediate and significant benefit to this move, there is no reason not to.


    and what happened to all the money the players gave them? With all the money we gave them, we should get upgraded data centers, this is a triple A company, so tried of SE acting like an indie developer
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