Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
FF XIV is really the only MMO currently standing that kinda sorta maybe rivals WoW, but doesn't have anywhere near the numbers WoW does.
actually based on the data from http://www.warcraftrealms.com/ and https://ffxivcensus.com/ the active player base is very similar, around 550~650k characters.

But yes, they definitely failed with Eureka as they did with Daidem but they are trying to force feed us Eureka now.