The whale mount is up on Mogstation

[Alleo]

That WoW token someone can buy with in-game gold? Someone had to buy it from Blizzard with rl money to be able to sell it to you.

So the whole "See, you can get everything in WoW with gold" isn't true because at some point, someone else has to spend rl money in order for it to happen. It's basically how they fought RMT.

My point was that you can still get everything from their cash shop without paying a single dollar. Of course others have to pay for this but at least this gives both sides an advantage. Those that have more rl money can get gold easier and those that have less or dont want to spent rl money on such items can just pay with ingame currency. So even in that part they are better. And again lets not forget my other points: Less items in the cash shop even though it exists longer, and an app that was completely free with way more functions.

[Emstidor]

My point was that you can still get everything from their cash shop without paying a single dollar. Of course others have to pay for this but at least this gives both sides an advantage. Those that have more rl money can get gold easier and those that have less or dont want to spent rl money on such items can just pay with ingame currency. So even in that part they are better. And again lets not forget my other points: Less items in the cash shop even though it exists longer, and an app that was completely free with way more functions.

The thing is, if you're razzed by a $30 mount on the Mogstation, but are fine with someone else buying $30 worth of mog shop credit that you can buy with your gil and get the whale yourself, then complaining about this mount right now just circles back to looking like the real issue is envy of those who can/will spend money to get the mount when you can't/won't.

[Skivvy]

The thing is, if you're razzed by a $30 mount on the Mogstation, but are fine with someone else buying $30 worth of mog shop credit that you can buy with your gil and get the whale yourself, then complaining about this mount right now just circles back to looking like the real issue is envy of those who can/will spend money to get the mount when you can't/won't.

How is that envy? Some people just don't want to spend additional money on a game for whatever reason. This just allows those who don't mind spending the extra cash to buy an item they can sell, which then allows those who prefer to farm in-game the option to do so. While you still have microtransactions, it helps satisfy both groups.

I've not played WoW, so can't speak to their system, but Archeage does this as well (granted this is a f2p game). You can buy their "Apex" for cash, which turns into credits when used in game. I had a premium account for ages for free, and could also use it to buy cash shop goodies when I wanted. Granted I would generally just buy the costumes with $$, but it's nice to have the option.

[Alleo]

The thing is, if you're razzed by a $30 mount on the Mogstation, but are fine with someone else buying $30 worth of mog shop credit that you can buy with your gil and get the whale yourself, then complaining about this mount right now just circles back to looking like the real issue is envy of those who can/will spend money to get the mount when you can't/won't.

I am not saying that its the best and great, all I am pointing out is, that if you have a cash shop the wow system is imo better. In the end I wish we would still get everything in the game.

Don't you mean funding and starting the Chaos Datacenter?

If that statement was true wouldnt that be quite sad? That only thanks to a cash shop (where Yoshida once stated that it was not meant to be there to get more cash but to give people ways to get old rewards [which totally makes sense seeing the high prices even for those °_°]) we would get the basis thing like a data center in EU? Shouldnt such a thing be financed from the subs?

Also where is all the cash shop money going into right now? Because I have not seen that SB has much more content than HW.

[SoleilAlphi]

Also where is all the cash shop money going into right now? Because I have not seen that SB has much more content than HW.

that money's going to fund the FF7 remake and maybe Kingdom Hearts 3, I guess

[K1tt]

Bought the whale as my pay day treat to myself, now I can finally give people lifts in eureka, no way in hell was I buying the moggle one its not my style

[Duskane]

a school of whale mounts in Pagos and soon Pyros

[347SPECTRE]

Speaking as a norwegian.
That is not a mount, that there is DINNER!

What makes this statement even more hilarious is that it's made by a miqo'te