SCH needs some nerfs

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I suppose it's a matter of scale. If we take AST as being well balanced for current content (so 100%) I see WHM as being perhaps 70% (and only even that high because of their performance in Ultimate which really is admirable) and SCH being about 130% with the extent to which they can ignore virtually all GCD healing. Our choices are buffing WHM by an absolutely massive amount to reach SCH while also buffing AST in both sects or bringing the bottom up and the top down. I think the latter is the better option for the sake of the longevity of content.

Uuuuh ok now I understand, thanks!
I never actually wondered about the comparison between SCH and AST because they work so well together, thus my position of finding a spot to WHM in that position.

But let's say nerfing SCH oGCD healing potency (such as indom and exco), it will automatically require healing compensation from both healers (more shielding and more top up afterwards for instance, or keep tanks higher than what we currently do), so maybe it will force some GCD heal on the AST and the SCH, and then naturally bring their DPS output a bit down, for that number of GCD. But that still does not make a reliable spot for WHM (or noct AST).

[MoroMurasaki]

Uuuuh ok now I understand, thanks!
I never actually wondered about the comparison between SCH and AST because they work so well together, thus my position of finding a spot to WHM in that position.

But let's say nerfing SCH oGCD healing potency (such as indom and exco), it will automatically require healing compensation from both healers (more shielding and more top up afterwards for instance, or keep tanks higher than what we currently do), so maybe it will force some GCD heal on the AST and the SCH, and then naturally bring their DPS output a bit down, for that number of GCD. But that still does not make a reliable spot for WHM (or noct AST).

The thing is in a vacuum WHM still has the strongest pDPS of any healer because Stone IV is the highest potency nuke. With a relatively small dps buff to WHM and some more GCD healing coming from AST and SCH I could definitely see WHM pDPS at least making it a reasonable choice to bring instead of a universally regarded detriment.

I think at this point the only potential rDPS that WHM could bring would be the indirect rDPS buff of a faster kill. SE has made it clear that they aren't going to give it any party-boosting ability so the alternative is to make it the true "BLM of the healers" and buff it's own damage instead. A selfish healer may not be meta but it could at least be a reasonable choice instead of a truly questionable one. I say this as someone with a WHM in my static that I love. As much as I would never pressure her to go AST I can objectively see how it isn't doing us any favors.

If we acknowledge that WHM pDPS needs a buff the question then becomes how much of one? That's why I would request SCH specifically be reigned in, to close the gap between the healers to make the requisite WHM buff a smaller one and thus minimize the change to healer dps overall by as much as possible.

Glad I explained well enough though, most of these are typed out quick on my phone at work so I'm glad I got my point across xD