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    Moro Murasaki
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    oh he/she didn't? ^^



    I wasn't the one who start the bite - but im also not the one who will take it without defending myself. And its not about Mch or Whm - its just about if someone said something so stupid about a Brd-skill-change - he/she doubtly understands other-skills adjustments as well. thats why I brought it over here.

    ^^
    So.... comfirmed, you don't read?

    They said a pDPS nerf to brd could make MCH competitive again. This is not saying it would make MCH equal to BRD in the same way that I'm not saying a pDPS nerf to SCH would not make WHM equal to SCH.

    Some groups will value the rDPS from Chain over a bit more pDPS from WHM anyways just like some groups will prefer BRDs utility to MCH's.

    These suggestions are band-aids to help mitigate the gigantic disparity in clear rates between classes like BRD and SCH and their competition for the months leading up to 5.0.

    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    Hey guys. I've been on a bit of a hiatus. Am I missing anything? Since the recent ast buff AST and SCH have been roughly neck to neck when it comes to rdps. And well, healing.... well not like the game requires much healing to start with so pretty irrelevant.

    Why this nerf thread now? I would've been expecting a thread about how whm is broken instead.
    Welcome back!

    There are a lot of threads (and have been a lot of threads, several by me) talking about how WHM needs help. I chose to make this one because I came to realize how well the current raid tier synergizes with SCH's kit and how the clear rates for this tier were so heavily skewed towards WHM/AST basically not being used as a comp.

    WHM's (myself previously included) have been pointing our fingers at AST as the source of our woes because it's been seen as our direct competition as a regen healer for a long time but the truth is with the Balance nerf and the addition of Miasma II to SCH AST hasn't been the issue here for a while now, it's all SCH.

    It's kind of like the MCH/Caster wars going on for a while now - instead of pointing fingers at each other they should be looking at BRD which is in an even better (worse?) place in terms of clears for Alphascape when you consider it's one out of nine DPS with one out of five clears.

    WHM's complaining about their lack of rDPS and low pDPS are complaining about a perfectly valid issue but it doesn't seem to be doing anything, my hope is that if SCH was not seen as practically mandatory (or even in some situations disadvantaged) that you would see more WHM/AST pairs and better healer balance overall.
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    Last edited by MoroMurasaki; 11-14-2018 at 07:39 PM.