SCH needs some nerfs

[Erakir]

Why are we so ultra focused on the tip top here, with this narrative of WHMs just not being in optimized groups at all?

Guys, forget the 99% for a moment. There would have to be SO MANY people who jumped from WHM to AST to push the entire chart for WHMs lower across the board. A ridiculous number. Hell, if anything all these amazing ASTs and SCHs at the top of the charts would in theory push the bottom ASTs/SCHs further down, as there's more high end competition.

And yet, the 25th percentile numbers have WHM in dead last for every fight going by that chart earlier. Except on o12 where the 25th percentile WHMs squeak by the 25th percentile ASTs. The gaps do close a bit on the low end of AST, where you'd probably see less ideal cards and more AST/WHM combos without chain strat (actually scratch that, we know how few WHM/ASTs are clearing O12 right now). Of course, scholars are still sitting high and pretty even on the bottom in these non-meta groups.

Quite frankly the number of raiders seriously going out there for parse/speedkills - and going out of their way to push meta for it instead of just doing the best they can with their static - is going to be kinda low relative to the total number of people raiding. Much lower than would be needed for this whole trend across the board. It's always been the case in every MMO I play. This shows that optimizing WHM for damage at all - no matter where you are in the charts or what sort of comp you're running - is more difficult / requires more catering to than other healer jobs.

Which is a problem. This is PART of the reason MCHs are having so many issues right now as well. Even under the assumption that a class can perform *on par* with personal numbers (which still leaves it behind since it offers no real raid benefit), you've got something that requires far more effort than the other options to attain the same results.

Or you can just say WHMs are worse players than ASTs and SCHs by default and....yeah have fun with that argument.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, looking at the 99% has its merits, but the balance across the entire spread of the playerbase matters first. When an issue shows up there consistently, it's far more important. Likewise if anyone was getting kicked from 24 mans or dungeons routinely for their job, that'd be an extremely bigger concern than anything in savage.

Double edit: And also while I'm here - not that anyone is doing this yet, but...don't try to ignore people under 50% as "bad players that shouldn't be thought about when it comes to balance." They totally should. This is still savage, and though the mechanics may be easy for a lot of people here, this is high end content in XIV and if you're clearing it you are not a bad player as far as the developers will see it. You're ahead of the curve.