SCH needs some nerfs

[EaMett]

Faerie gauge is amazing >.> If anything it's annoying because I want to use it all the time. Also wish it would tie in with the faerie's gcd.. but hey would probably be too much to ask for.

[Maltothoris]

So with the latest live letter, it looks like whm is getting buffs along with the mnk and the mch. Other than that, we're getting assurances that the lily and overheat thing are getting looked out. The only thing they're changing is potencies. It will probably be more on the lines of the ogcds(probably assize, asylum and tetra) and maybe regen than anything with damage unless they really thing its that bad of a disparity in the healing dps department.

Well, I'm a bit surprised there are job adjustments this time around. Basing off of what they did in 2.5 and 3.5, they usually never do them this late into the expansion. Last time I recall was back in 2.45 when they made all those buffs to the dragoon cause of how much of a liability it was back in Final Coil.( Was never fun looking forward to Nerve cloud after the add phase during that) So it's a bit strange for them to be doing it here. Well, the only thing we can do is what and see.

[Jinzhu]

Well, I'm a bit surprised there are job adjustments this time around. Basing off of what they did in 2.5 and 3.5, they usually never do them this late into the expansion. Last time I recall was back in 2.45 when they made all those buffs to the dragoon cause of how much of a liability it was back in Final Coil.( Was never fun looking forward to Nerve cloud after the add phase during that) So it's a bit strange for them to be doing it here. Well, the only thing we can do is what and see.

Yeah it's weird because while i'm glad they're doing buffs finally, there's no real reason to do them this late. Progs over, most speed kill groups are dead and Echo is like two months after 4.5. I guess it'll help those echo PFs to not lock down certain jobs. I'm more worried how bad these buffs will affect Ultimates as they are the only content that really matter at this point. If you don't know, the AST buff in 4.3 severely skewed the balance in UCoB making the fights only DPS check a big joke and made recovering from deaths to meet DPS checks easier. Then in 4.4 with the Collective and Lord change it just dominates with no competition since it's cooldowns work so well in that fight. I never understood people running WHM in UCoB especially after 4.4 when AST is just more comfy with all the new QoL changes they got. I guess WHM is easier and more comfy at a basic level but Cure 3 isn't really needed when you can Lightspeed Helios and have infinite mobility. The only time I see Cure 3 outweighing that is during add phase and even then with some simple planning you can turn that around.

[Lyth]

The ideal time to release balance changes is actually when nothing is at stake, as opposed to the day of a new tier or Ultimate release. That way, players have time to get used to the changes, and you have time to process feedback. You can afford to try some fairly risky experiments as well. Regardless of whether it shows no significant effect or if it skews the balance, you still have time to tone it back in March or April and try something different if need be.

A part of me is curious, too, to see what might happen if they actually tried something less conservative. What would happen if you tied Lily generation to Stone IV and Holy casts, and the number of Lilies continuously sped up the rate at which your recasts counted down, as opposed to at the time of activation? You'd have a sort of Stone-based Greased Lightning system. You could afford to throw out something odd and see what happens without consequence. It might fall flat, but at least you have time to refine it before the expansion hits.

[Niceville]

SCH doesn't need a nerf.

[LeonTrifang]

U-Uh I just started..... maining sch....... But there seems to be a huge war over it...... it also sounds like if I don’t use my fairy, then it will make people less upset because a lot of people complain the fairy is unfair.

[EaMett]

U-Uh I just started..... maining sch....... But there seems to be a huge war over it...... it also sounds like if I don’t use my fairy, then it will make people less upset because a lot of people complain the fairy is unfair.

Going about it the wrong way. You're willingly not helping the people you play with by doing this.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

U-Uh I just started..... maining sch....... But there seems to be a huge war over it...... it also sounds like if I don’t use my fairy, then it will make people less upset because a lot of people complain the fairy is unfair.

This is a...really odd way of looking at things (no offense intended).
Sure healer balance is out of whack, but it doesn't/shouldn't fall to you to handicap yourself for no reason.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

The ideal time to release balance changes is actually when nothing is at stake, as opposed to the day of a new tier or Ultimate release. .

I have to disagree with this. I mean, the buff is coming at a point where all the hardest content in the game has long since been cleared and the expansion is about to hit which will change things anyway.
I don't want WHM changes just to feel special for a patch. I want changes so we're overall more balanced compared to the other healers.

I'm not going to argue against the upcoming buffs of course, but it feels like they're just throwing us a bone to lessen the damage. I would have much rather them leave us alone so our weakenesss and what needs to be done could be made more apparent for 5.0 rather than give us a bandaid only to switch things back later and cause more issues.