I have a Question about DDOS attacks

[tdb]

And worse, all that infrastructure is pointless if the DDOS strikes someplace out of their reach. If the targets are not SE themselves, but some other place on the route between the data center and your computer, there's nothing SE can do even if they're equipped to deal with DDOS themselves.

Based on what I've seen, this is likely the case. A week or two ago some of my friends were unable to get into the game and another had serious lag issues and kept getting disconnected. Meanwhile I had no issues. Last night the login issue hit me and it took 10+ attempts to get it. Once I did get in the game worked just fine though. Those same friends reported they had no problems whatsoever. If the attack was targeting SE's data center everyone would have problems; if it was targeting me I would have problems with everything. Since neither of those was the case it stands to reason that some router in the middle was affected.

[Sigma-Astra]

Yeah, and they're getting the WHALE mount first. They got the Red Hare mount first as well. The market for Mog Station ALWAYS goes: Asian market > NA market > EU market. The Cloud mount didn't hit EU till a FULL YEAR after we got it. So yes, SquareEnix FAVORS the Asian Market.

But, my main point is: I know their ISP is getting attacked. If their ISP can't keep their own stuff secure, then SE should CHANGE THEIR ISP. When the company that my old store's point of sale system went through changed a policy, making it more difficult to process a credit card charge, we didn't just sit on it and tell our VERY ANGRY customers "It's not our fault". WE CHANGED OUR PROVIDER! Yeah, it was a learning curve, but we did it, and we were GLAD we did.

There are things they can do.

--Lucifer

I'm not sure that you understand DDoS attacks nor do you understand that the Cash Shop items you're griping about were made EXCLUSIVELY FIRST for China and Korea by their own request. The only reasoning as to why we were given them was because the NA and EU community made tons of requests for them.

And yes, while I won't lie and say that they don't favor their own culture first, I believe you're just lashing out words for the sake of it and not really thinking clearly in what you gripe or write about.

[Turnipsi]

So what can SE do if the ISP gets ddos attacks? Nothing because SE doesn't get attacked!

The angel and demon set were most likely custom made for the chinese, ya know ordered n stuff. So no wonder they had it first. We only get the stuff that the chinese ordered because the com here cried about it, so be happy that you can get it at all.

I don't know how your contracts with your ISP are but my contracts run for 1-2 years and i suppose business contracts run even longer and it can get pretty expensive if you just terminate them.

Chinese version is being handled by Shanda, don't remember which company was behind Korean. We're getting their exclusives due to player request, they're being ordered and developed for those versions. What does this have to do with DDOS anyway...? Japan is getting hit too.

Your friends husband would be pretty rich is he can stop attacks like that btw. And if they're actually wanting FFXIV down, changing ISP (which is behind a contract) wouldn't even help. This has been discussed previously. You're welcome to do your decisions on staying or leaving.

[Ilan]

Chinese version is being handled by Shanda, don't remember which company was behind Korean. We're getting their exclusives due to player request, they're being ordered and developed for those versions. What does this have to do with DDOS anyway...? Japan is getting hit too.

Your friends husband would be pretty rich is he can stop attacks like that btw. And if they're actually wanting FFXIV down, changing ISP (which is behind a contract) wouldn't even help. This has been discussed previously. You're welcome to do your decisions on staying or leaving.

Wrong quote, but you are right.

[Fonzarelli]

For people who are talking about how SE needs to do something about DDoS attacks, what do you propose be done?
I know you think that your $14.99 USD/month is a lot of money, but it's not. Companies like Amazon or Google have thousands of square footage of independent machines running their servers. These publicly-traded companies deal with money on a scale that SE is nowhere in the league of. So it is actually very unreasonable for you to expect that somehow the company can be protected at all times from this level of attack. Of course, as time passes, SE can try to find and isolate some things... but that takes time.

Also, there isn't a reasonable expectation that specifically the FF14 servers would be targeted by this form of attack. This kind of attack is often reserved for trying to disrupt government websites, and other big-fish in the world. Not some random MMO that has no affect on the world's economy, policy, or even a mass-level of users (yes, approximate 14 million is a lot of people, but not for this kind of statement).

Really, you should be more upset at the people doing it. It is really stupid how some people get their kicks. They are literally targeting servers of a game, where the sole purpose people connect to, is to have fun.
So these people, whatever their motive is, are actually the biggest d-bags because their sole purpose is just to stop the fun of a select group of people in the world.

[Kurando]

Seems to be moving the topic to a "SE hates NA" tantrum. NA isn't the only place in the world, nor does it deserve any special treatment over anyone else. You lost your potd data, it sucks, but life goes on. Perhaps we'll get something from SE in the future for the issues who knows, but going on a hate speech against the whole company isn't going to do anything.

[SenorPatty]

Seems to be moving the topic to a "SE hates NA" tantrum. NA isn't the only place in the world, nor does it deserve any special treatment over anyone else. You lost your potd data, it sucks, but life goes on. Perhaps we'll get something from SE in the future for the issues who knows, but going on a hate speech against the whole company isn't going to do anything.

No! I want my lynch mob now! My crops died on the day of an eclipse, which we all know is a sign created by the strange things I don't understand and since it's perfectly normal to hate things I don't understand, I need to scapegoat. Only then will all my problems magically go away.

[Nezerius]

Sure looks like a thinly veiled attempt at yet another "DDoS - PotD edition" thread, was the first one not enough for your group, OP?

OT: It's neither the player's, nor SE's fault. The DDoS attacks aren't aimed specifically at SE's servers, but to routes leading to those servers.

[Jib]

Talking different things here. DDoS attacks is one thing, SE preference for Asia is another. We all know SE prefers Europe the least. We get nothing or when we get it is always late or very difficult ways to obtain.

DDoS attack has been happening to everyone, Asia, America, Europe... it sucks, just have to be patient I guess, it won’t happen forever. Talk with your wallet. Cancel subscription if you don’t want to wait, come back when you hear it is better. But one thing I will tell you, FFXIV has been the most “stable” mmorpg I have ever played. I’ve had issues with SWTOR, WOW, ESO, Blackdesert...

It happens, it will get better.

[Astarotha]

also every time they ban bot and gilfarmer accounts thats an extra set of logins crashing into the server constantly on top of the people pulling off ddos attacks from starbucks, libraries, the truck stop bathroom off i95, every old persons pc that clicks on every email they get, and then you get to the people actually playing the game and all their traffic

ddos is literally the popoto chip of the hacking world, theyre cheap, easy to find, and crunch all you want theyll make more