Housing Woes

[worldofneil]

How am I trolling or even griefing other players. Please show me.

Hours? I've done it in two minutes lol.

Sorry, but what?

To get an FC from 1 to 6 requires the FC to earn about 86,000 credits. The FC doesn't get that much for each hand in (you might get 1400+ seals for handing in level 70 items, but the FC only gets a few points, even if you're getting the bonus for being the only one online) so even if you had an absolutely massive stockpile of items ready to hand in, that's still going to take more than a few minutes to actually hand them all in, as well as all the preparation time it took to acquire all those items in the first place.

I know that raising an FC to 6 can be done in a few hours, I've done it myself in 6 hours, although not something I want to repeat any time soon. For me it was a combination of HQ crafting/hand ins, but even then I'm not including the time taken to gather materials to craft with before I started (which with hindsight maybe I should have done while in the FC as HQ gathers would have earned 3 points each time too...)

But what you're saying, that is just not possible. But hey, I'm happy to be proved wrong! (and it'd be useful if I ever needed to level up another FC!)

[MicahZerrshia]

It also stinks we cant just trade our house in. I don't want to keep my mansion since idk if I am going to stayed subbed at this point but I don't wanna loose 40m gil in case I don't so I am just sitting on it, not only does the timer need to tick past 45 days but also I need to wait til it starts again since they shut it down for the hurricane.

There is no logical reason housing should be this convoluted…

[NotOliverB]

A few points he said. Not possible he said while begging to be proved wrong. Okay, here's my guide to leveling an FC, the smart way.

Step 1: Ditch the guides that tell you to gather thousands of items and craft militia chokers. It's 2018, not 2015 my lala.

Step 2: Fill your inventory with ilvl 220/ ilvl 170 items on the market board that players have obtained from ventures and therefore don't have any clue what they are actually worth. If you know your way around the market board, chances are you already bought these HQ 220 items that were being sold for 5000 gil but since you're here...

Step 3: Ignore the /tell you just received about this player who's trying to lowball you on overpriced vintage items that nobody crafts, because you know he's gonna buy them anyway.



Step 4: Teleport to your GC

Step 5: Watch this short repetitive video:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/329884659

Step 6: Come back to the forums and pretend not to be upset because you got proved wrong.

Ilvl 250 - 750pts
Ilvl 220 - 660pts
Ilvl 180 - 540pts
Ilvl 170 - 510 pts

Inventory: 140 slots

Do the math.

[MizArai]

A few points he said. Not possible he said while begging to be proved wrong. Okay, here's my guide to leveling an FC, the smart way.

Step 1: Ditch the guides that tell you to gather thousands of items and craft militia chokers. It's 2018, not 2015 my lala.

Step 2: Fill your inventory with ilvl 220/ ilvl 170 items on the market board that players have obtained from ventures and therefore don't have any clue what they are actually worth. If you know your way around the market board, chances are you already bought these HQ 220 items that were being sold for 5000 gil but since you're here...

Step 3: Ignore the /tell you just received about this player who's trying to lowball you on overpriced vintage items that nobody crafts, because you know he's gonna buy them anyway.



Step 4: Teleport to your GC

Step 5: Watch this short repetitive video:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/329884659

Step 6: Come back to the forums and pretend not to be upset because you got proved wrong.

Ilvl 250 - 750pts
Ilvl 220 - 660pts
Ilvl 180 - 540pts
Ilvl 170 - 510 pts

Inventory: 140 slots

Do the math.

That's a lot of prep work aka more than 2 minutes, but it really does just prove that it doesn't take long if someone knows what they're doing.

[worldofneil]

A few points he said. Not possible he said while begging to be proved wrong. Okay, here's my guide to leveling an FC, the smart way.

Well thank you for your reply and explanation, but you've just said exactly what I already said about handing in items in bulk to level up the FC. You just went into more detail about it. My point was that it's not possible to do this in just a few minutes as you claimed and you've just confirmed that I was correct in that statement.

I also can't help but notice that the economy on your server is considerably different to mine. We don't have an abundance of 170+ items on the marketboard, and certainly not at prices you'd want to pay in bulk (nothing like 5k each!). However, we also have a lot of available houses/choice and from what I understand that's not the case on your server.

If you want a true tip to levelling an FC fast, just buy one from another player who's already levelled it. There's always people moving server who have them to offload and even with the marketboard prices you're paying, it'll be cheaper too.

[NotOliverB]

Well thank you for your reply and explanation, but you've just said exactly what I already said about handing in items in bulk to level up the FC. You just went into more detail about it. My point was that it's not possible to do this in just a few minutes as you claimed and you've just confirmed that I was correct in that statement.

I also can't help but notice that the economy on your server is considerably different to mine. We don't have an abundance of 170+ items on the marketboard, and certainly not at prices you'd want to pay in bulk (nothing like 5k each!). However, we also have a lot of available houses/choice and from what I understand that's not the case on your server.

If you want a true tip to levelling an FC fast, just buy one from another player who's already levelled it. There's always people moving server who have them to offload and even with the marketboard prices you're paying, it'll be cheaper too.

I feel sorry you cannot comprehend that I got enough FC points in that video to level up an FC to rank 6 in minutes. Nothing lost since you didn't understand that I can spend 160k GC points to make more money than what I spent on those unwanted high level items. Cheaper, right.

[AriesMouse]

I feel sorry you cannot comprehend that I got enough FC points in that video to level up an FC to rank 6 in minutes. Nothing lost since you didn't understand that I can spend 160k GC points to make more money than what I spent on those unwanted high level items. Cheaper, right.

I think at most you proved that sure, you can do this very specific thing, on your server, with some amount of prep work before hand (that did not have it's time added into the over all time, so the results are skewed).

This worked for you, specifically, but it isn't likely to work for everyone. It's not viable. Every server has a different economy/MB selection. Not every server is going to have easy access to these things that made this so easy for you.

So, cool, good for you for being able to level a GC super fast (although I'd say it took more than the 2 minutes you originally claimed).

Hours? I've done it in two minutes lol.

The fact you can do this though isn't helpful to anyone else, and just feels like a statement made to either brag, or to mislead people on what they should really be doing to reasonably level a GC. You provided nothing genuinely helpful that doesn't apply to very specific circumstances. Is your method something they can look into? Sure, but you didn't provide the method the first time around when the subject came up, suggesting your intention wasn't even to be helpful to begin with. It feels like your intention here is just to be argumentative.


Back on topic, the housing situation is pretty awful. Best you can do is find a way to make the system work for you until they change it, and in the mean time, keep fighting to get them to change it. Upgraded apartments and instanced housing would fix literally everything, they just seem to be sitting on their hands refusing to try either of these things.

[MaybeOliverB]

Already went over this. If you don't already purchase various items on the market board that are way under priced, that's on you. If you want to waste 6 hours of your life leveling up an FC non stop by using archaic methods, sure go ahead. If your server's economy is in shambles, what are you even doing there leveling an FC on your own? Just move elsewhere already. Anyway, the lala said it wasn't possible and I demonstrated that it can be done. How argumentative of me~

That being said, I do have to agree with the last part of your post. Housing's in a terrible state right now. The plots are way too affordable and the auto-demolition timer is way too long. Bring back the original prices from 2.1 and shorten the demolition timer to a week at most.

[NotOliverB]

Prep work? You should already have these if you look at the market board. And even if you don't, it takes 10 minutes to purchase the items you need. Top.

[MidnightHimitsu]

Saw this thread and just needed to vent so just let me okay? I play on Mateus. Houses come up 1-3 every 3-4 days. Only S plots normally. Once a M in the 3 months I have been playing. I am a big RP player love the FC im in etc. I want a house for story reason between GF and I IG. Won't bond till we have a house. S comes up. sat for 10 hours. Relocator comes up and takes it. S come sup. Sat for 5 hours. Relocator comes up and grabs it. M comes up. SAT FOR TWENTY HOURS to get it. Relocator comes up and takes it. This has been my days off from work to do this. Housing is ridiculous to the Asheron's call level. For those who don't know what they did they announced housing then released about 400 houses for the entire server when at low they had over 700k accounts not counting duplicates. We have 600k accounts on one server! Let's release 600 houses should be fine right? I also want to include the jerks with the grandfather clause who still own several houses but only log in to keep their houses from house release. Having the ability to own a house and a FC house is stupid. FC housing should be instanced like apartments were in 11. That would free up houses for other people (maybe)

Having invisible timers is useless and infuriating. I can't even buy a house from someone willing to sell it cause of the timer. Having relocation as a FC only option is also making me hate this game. Okay my vent is over sorry just had yet another house sniped from me after waiting hours.


Edit: Also discovered people running bots to sit and click for them to try to buy the house every so often. Easily done as I was informed with a simple mouse repeating 3rd party program allowing them to sit at an available house when not at the computer and try to buy the house without having to sit there for hours on end.