Thread: Information on 1.21 Next week?

Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

However, we prioritized quality and volume and we are now reflecting on the lack of foresight that the patch would be pushed back as a result. In the future I don’t want the same mistakes to happen again as I believe we’ve all learned a lot from this (for the rest of my life as long as I am doing this line of work), and I make an effort to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

Got some advice for you... (Not that it would ever reach you)
Under promise
Over deliver

Thats how we do it in the states....
I would have told people April for 1.21... So March 8th seemed like it was way ahead of schedule...
But telling people early Feb makes March 8 feel icky and wrong...

Originally Posted by Rydin

Got some advice for you... (Not that it would ever reach you)
Under promise
Over deliver

Thats how we do it in the states....
I would have told people April for 1.21... So March 8th seemed like it was way ahead of schedule...
But telling people early Feb makes March 8 feel icky and wrong...

Sound advice, don't know why they don't do it this way instead.

Let's all say it together....

"Surprise and Delight"
"Surprise and Delight"

Easy to do if you are much more conservative in promises and timelines. Every release should be early and with more content then advertised. The difficulty with this of course is that it is in human nature to be optimistic about accomplishing one's goals and the desire to be transparent about what's going on.

Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

However, we prioritized quality and volume and we are now reflecting on the lack of foresight that the patch would be pushed back as a result. In the future I don’t want the same mistakes to happen again as I believe we’ve all learned a lot from this (for the rest of my life as long as I am doing this line of work), and I make an effort to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

Translation: We will stop telling you guys potential dates to save yourselfs from comiting suicide when we hit a snag.

I think it's unfortunate that SE made the attempt to be more transparant with things but are drug through the mud when a delay drops. It's going to very easy to Yoshida and SE in general to turtle back up in regards to releasing information to the public if the players keep acting like a ravenous swarm waiting for information to tear apart long before it's even beyond concept phase.

I also think this will be a step backwards in communication with players about our own suggestions as well.

Hopefully I'm wrong and Yoshida is just going to be less precise with dates in the near future.

Originally Posted by Naylia

Let's all say it together....

"Surprise and Delight"
"Surprise and Delight"

Easy to do if you are much more conservative in promises and timelines. Every release should be early and with more content then advertised. The difficulty with this of course is that it is in human nature to be optimistic about accomplishing one's goals and the desire to be transparent about what's going on.

Originally Posted by Fated

Sound advice, don't know why they don't do it this way instead.

Thank you... And for the love of God... stop saying...

Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

Patch 1.21 is going to be the biggest patch yet since the launch of FFXIV service.

Originally Posted by FlynnRider

This just sucks...

I used to look forward to coming into work at 8AM and checking the Lodestone for patch notes, indulging myself in exciting changes and additions to the game and getting pumped for the patch. I even woke up at 5AM this morning and checked the Lodestone for an update. Nothing. I mean c'mon...delay or not, I'm getting extremely anxious. This is just outright ridiculous. Oh wait, we got like 5 screenshots, oh woooooooow.

First I pitied you, then I lol'd.
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@bout Yoshi - as others said, "promise less, deliver more" is the best public relations option. Always conserve your promises, as humans are much better impressionable by such manners.

Translation: We will stop telling you guys potential dates to save yourselfs from comiting suicide when we hit a snag.

I think it's unfortunate that SE made the attempt to be more transparant with things but are drug through the mud when a delay drops. It's going to very easy to Yoshida and SE in general to turtle back up in regards to releasing information to the public if the players keep acting like a ravenous swarm waiting for information to tear apart long before it's even beyond concept phase.

I also think this will be a step backwards in communication with players about our own suggestions as well.

Hopefully I'm wrong and Yoshida is just going to be less precise with dates in the near future.

Same thing happened with White Wolf for the same reasons. They'd give a release date months, or even just over a year in advance, then something would happen to delay publication by a week or a few months and the bsc fans would pitch a fit. Eventually, the company started giving dates with the caveat of "subject to change." Still the bsc fans bitched if the schedule deviated at all. Finally, they just started posting "coming soon," and those same bsc fans who bitched and moaned that they'd rather get no specific date if there was a chance of being delayed started bitching because they were getting no dates.