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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    My bad, lol, I've been watching the "updates" thread.
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    I wanted to share some additional information that Yoshida provided in regards to the patch timing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    In regards to the schedule delay, I feel terrible that all I can do is apologize. To everyone that is waiting and looking forward to the patch, please give us just a bit more time. As some of you have pointed out, since I released the initial schedule, it is naturally my duty as producer to ensure that the schedule is upheld.

    With each patch, we balance the schedule along with the quality and volume of the patch and then decide on the specifications following that. However, we prioritized quality and volume and we are now reflecting on the lack of foresight that the patch would be pushed back as a result. In the future I don’t want the same mistakes to happen again as I believe we’ve all learned a lot from this (for the rest of my life as long as I am doing this line of work), and I make an effort to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

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    I just finished writing the next Letter from the Producer a bit ago, and it should reach the hands of the translators first thing tomorrow morning. I would like to have this released as soon as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    I wanted to share some additional information that Yoshida provided in regards to the patch timing.
    Hey Rukkirii.. I just posted a crappier version of your nicely Translated Version of this like.. 5 mins ago.. , I can't wait for the Producer letter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    I wanted to share some additional information that Yoshida provided in regards to the patch timing.
    We understand the situation where you are coming from Yoshida. Only thing I ask in he future is that you keep a better line of communication with your customers when situations like this occurs. Being as informative as can be on delays and progress goes a long way with us. Not many people were angry over the fact that he patch was delayed. Most of the anger was around people being left in the dark about the delay. We hope in the future if patches get delayed, you will keep us informed on the situation.

    Also, thank you for making that post, it does show you do really care about the production of the game and care about your customer base.
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    I'm not exactly going to defend SE for another patch delay, in what has become a long line of patch delays. Especially now after billing has commenced and people are a bit more conscious of timing and monthly fees. I think people have a right to be a little frustrated.

    However. Yoshi-P's daily diet of stress, cigarettes, and 3 hours sleep landed him in the hospital with a high fever. While that doesn't make work at the office grind to a halt, I'm sure there were QA issues and other decisions that couldn't go forward without his stamp of approval. I'm betting that did contribute to the delay of what will be FFXIV's biggest patch to date.

    Most important is this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    With each patch, we balance the schedule along with the quality and volume of the patch and then decide on the specifications following that. However, we prioritized quality and volume and we are now reflecting on the lack of foresight that the patch would be pushed back as a result. In the future I don’t want the same mistakes to happen again as I believe we’ve all learned a lot from this (for the rest of my life as long as I am doing this line of work), and I make an effort to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
    Quality should always be prioritized, even if it means a delay. I think we can all agree that the game wouldn't be in the state that it's in now if it was allowed another year in development. Rushing your product out the door when it's not ready is the real mistake.

    Yes, time is of the essence right now as 2.0 approaches. And SE is obviously a company that has time-management issues. I'm hoping all that Yoshi-P is saying is that they will be more conscious of timing in the future, not that they will prioritize efficiency over quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    I'm not exactly going to defend SE for another patch delay, in what has become a long line of patch delays. Especially now after billing has commenced and people are a bit more conscious of timing and monthly fees. I think people have a right to be a little frustrated.

    However. Yoshi-P's daily diet of stress, cigarettes, and 3 hours sleep landed him in the hospital with a high fever. While that doesn't make work at the office grind to a halt, I'm sure there were QA issues and other decisions that couldn't go forward without his stamp of approval. I'm betting that did contribute to the delay of what will be FFXIV's biggest patch to date.

    Most important is this:



    Quality should always be prioritized, even if it means a delay. I think we can all agree that the game wouldn't be in the state that it's in now if it was allowed another year in development. Rushing your product out the door when it's not ready is the real mistake.

    Yes, time is of the essence right now as 2.0 approaches. And SE is obviously a company that has time-management issues. I'm hoping all that Yoshi-P is saying is that they will be more conscious of timing in the future, not that they will prioritize efficiency over quality.
    No sane person is complaining about the delay, we're aware of all of that stuff. What we definitely have a right to complain about is the nigh absurd lack of information.

    Yeah the weaponskill video was alright (although we'd already seen some of them) but honestly it's not what a lot of us want... We want patch notes, numbers, tangible information...

    When someone tells you to you'll get something "tomorrow", do you expect to wait 3 days for it? I don't.
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    Last edited by Colino; 02-29-2012 at 09:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    However, we prioritized quality and volume and we are now reflecting on the lack of foresight that the patch would be pushed back as a result. In the future I don’t want the same mistakes to happen again as I believe we’ve all learned a lot from this (for the rest of my life as long as I am doing this line of work), and I make an effort to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
    Got some advice for you... (Not that it would ever reach you)
    Under promise
    Over deliver

    Thats how we do it in the states....
    I would have told people April for 1.21... So March 8th seemed like it was way ahead of schedule...
    But telling people early Feb makes March 8 feel icky and wrong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Got some advice for you... (Not that it would ever reach you)
    Under promise
    Over deliver

    Thats how we do it in the states....
    I would have told people April for 1.21... So March 8th seemed like it was way ahead of schedule...
    But telling people early Feb makes March 8 feel icky and wrong...
    Sound advice, don't know why they don't do it this way instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naylia View Post
    Let's all say it together....

    "Surprise and Delight"
    "Surprise and Delight"

    Easy to do if you are much more conservative in promises and timelines. Every release should be early and with more content then advertised. The difficulty with this of course is that it is in human nature to be optimistic about accomplishing one's goals and the desire to be transparent about what's going on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fated View Post
    Sound advice, don't know why they don't do it this way instead.
    Thank you... And for the love of God... stop saying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Patch 1.21 is going to be the biggest patch yet since the launch of FFXIV service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlynnRider View Post
    This just sucks...

    I used to look forward to coming into work at 8AM and checking the Lodestone for patch notes, indulging myself in exciting changes and additions to the game and getting pumped for the patch. I even woke up at 5AM this morning and checked the Lodestone for an update. Nothing. I mean c'mon...delay or not, I'm getting extremely anxious. This is just outright ridiculous. Oh wait, we got like 5 screenshots, oh woooooooow.
    First I pitied you, then I lol'd.
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    @bout Yoshi - as others said, "promise less, deliver more" is the best public relations option. Always conserve your promises, as humans are much better impressionable by such manners.
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