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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    The thing is, most people on this thread "naysaying", such as myself, actually agree that a token or gesture of goodwill (minion, road to 60 buff, etc) would be nice, and even reasonable. What we don't like is the excessive entitlement that comes along with a lot of these requests. If you want to argue that a company would be smart to do so, and that us, as players, have been inconvenienced, it's true. But shrieking expletives and demanding a month's playtime because "you are owed it" is untrue. You're legally owed nothing. Anything they decide to give you is a bonus. Just like a store can point at a "no refunds" sign when you bring back a broken item, so can SE point to their ToS.
    Exactly this. The entitlement of what people are asking for is ridiculous. Now I agree, a token of goodwill wouldn't go amiss (once they get it resolved), but like you said, ToS states that legally, SE owe you zilch. And if you wanna take it to court, you'll lose the battle so hard (assuming the court will even hear your case), plus you'll have to pay SE's legal fees which will total up a few hundred thousand pounds at least (a company this size will use their army of lawyers, and that doesn't come cheap). But because of how much people are demanding stuff, I'm actually hoping SE refuses to give a token of goodwill, and actually punishes those who have demanded it. Petty? Sure. But I think it's the only way these people are going to be quiet and accept that demanding free stuff isn't the right way to go.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    I'm actually hoping SE refuses to give a token of goodwill, and actually punishes those who have demanded it. Petty? Sure. But I think it's the only way these people are going to be quiet and accept that demanding free stuff isn't the right way to go.
    Given this isn't the first time we've had these issues, nor will they be the last, nothing will be given. I don't know the cause of these rounds of attacks, but if it was a person, or group of people, looking to specifically target FFXIV to gain free things, they'd only be positively rewarded for their efforts.

    If SE were inclined to give any type of handouts, though, I'd simply ask for a fully capped week of tomestones of genesis at the start of a fresh week. Just a heads-up on the front page to make sure it won't push you over the hard-cap limit would be a pleasant gesture. Something humble.
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