Results 1 to 10 of 120

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Vrankyl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    574
    Character
    Tsenno Se'senovoto
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aerlana View Post
    yes i understood what you said.

    But when other game get far less DDOS matter than SE there is 2 solution

    1) SE is on this point (like so much others...) in the way "spend less money, always less" and so... this
    2) They are focused by a better/more determined guy or group of people.

    ... personnally i consider the matter is more SE side than the attackers. you consider the other way. The thing is no proof, on one side or the other. but the "SE victim" way is the one i can consider the less...

    Really strange that the matter is far more there on this game than any other...
    See I don't know why everyone is thinking this has only happened to SE this bad. I remember the one holiday season where World of Warcraft was practically unplayable for weeks because of DDoS attacks, and World of Warcraft had far more resources to use to throw at it. Didn't stop the servers from constantly crashing until the culprits were caught.
    (4)

  2. #2
    Player
    Aerlana's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    1,288
    Character
    Lahna Orora
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    See I don't know why everyone is thinking this has only happened to SE this bad. I remember the one holiday season where World of Warcraft was practically unplayable for weeks because of DDoS attacks, and World of Warcraft had far more resources to use to throw at it. Didn't stop the servers from constantly crashing until the culprits were caught.
    could you link me some thing speaking of ddos doing game mass DC like we have here, during more than 1 week elsewhere else in lets say... 5 past years?
    Lets not forget that, because you point wow... that SE get 2 more years experience at handling MMORPG (and i spoke about games not only wow or MMORPGs :-° LoL, CS etc )


    Really, when i see wow, lol, CS, steam servers, twitter, or any big things that could be a target of choice to any DDOS attack... i have hard time finding anything that long... ... Some time yes, 1, 2, even 3 or 4 days. and i didnt cry the first week here. prefered patience...
    but now... ... After ddos attack one year ago. And so much more thing to say about what they do to around servers (lets speak of how many month with the 4.1 latency matter? and when even some did continue have "call your ISP, not our matter anymore" . Hard to consider SE is now working on this matter seriously...
    (0)
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.
    Quote Originally Posted by GILDREIN View Post
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: [...]these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  3. #3
    Player
    Vrankyl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    574
    Character
    Tsenno Se'senovoto
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aerlana View Post
    could you link me some thing speaking of ddos doing game mass DC like we have here, during more than 1 week elsewhere else in lets say... 5 past years?
    Lets not forget that, because you point wow... that SE get 2 more years experience at handling MMORPG (and i spoke about games not only wow or MMORPGs :-° LoL, CS etc )


    Really, when i see wow, lol, CS, steam servers, twitter, or any big things that could be a target of choice to any DDOS attack... i have hard time finding anything that long... ... Some time yes, 1, 2, even 3 or 4 days. and i didnt cry the first week here. prefered patience...
    but now... ... After ddos attack one year ago. And so much more thing to say about what they do to around servers (lets speak of how many month with the 4.1 latency matter? and when even some did continue have "call your ISP, not our matter anymore" . Hard to consider SE is now working on this matter seriously...
    There is nothing you can do to prevent a DDoS attack. There are measures to take to prevent it from being catastrophic, which they have stated they are doing, but you cannot prevent nor stop a DDoS attack. Especially since these attacks aren't always directed at SE servers but the ISPs routing into those servers which SE can do nothing at all about.

    In regards to WoW in 2010 a man consistently launched DDoS attacks against WoW servers from February until March. There were also the Lizard Squad attacks that have hit Blizzard multiple times for weeks on end. Hell just in 2016 from August to September Battle.net itself was constantly being struck with DDoS taking multiple games down at a time. This also does not include the DDoS issues that World of Warcraft by itself suffered from November to December of 2014. It really just takes a simple google search. Though it's not common for these issues to be so prolonged, because the people behind them usually get bored or get caught for long term ones, they do happen. The SB launch was a huge mess for a number of reasons, not just DDoS, and that can be held against SE. This no so much.
    (5)

  4. #4
    Player
    Aerlana's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    1,288
    Character
    Lahna Orora
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    There is nothing you can do to prevent a DDoS attack. There are measures to take to prevent it from being catastrophic, which they have stated they are doing, but you cannot prevent nor stop a DDoS attack. Especially since these attacks aren't always directed at SE servers but the ISPs routing into those servers which SE can do nothing at all about.

    In regards to WoW in 2010 a man consistently launched DDoS attacks against WoW servers from February until March. There were also the Lizard Squad attacks that have hit Blizzard multiple times for weeks on end. Hell just in 2016 from August to September Battle.net itself was constantly being struck with DDoS taking multiple games down at a time. This also does not include the DDoS issues that World of Warcraft by itself suffered from November to December of 2014. It really just takes a simple google search. Though it's not common for these issues to be so prolonged, because the people behind them usually get bored or get caught for long term ones, they do happen. The SB launch was a huge mess for a number of reasons, not just DDoS, and that can be held against SE. This no so much.
    did those things avoided people to play with decent latency? for 2014 i was on FFXIV so cant say, but i dont remember in WOTLK (2010) thing that make me unable to play... except with a matter with some ISP (free/SFR) that was part of blizzard fault.
    2016 , i did play all along, and again, no matter to play... not half of raid logging out each evening...

    This is this i speak about... Is the game playable or should i have to forget most things i do everyday...
    Else, thing like you point, there is also numerous on steam servers, LoL, and many others... i remember because i did saw the message about "sorry, we have a matter" but each time, i was able to play...

    I really dont care if i was able to play because riot, valve, blizzard or anyelse did do a thing or another, it is not MY matter but THEIR matter. like SE matter is to have a service avaible for his customers.

    And there was recently a big ddos focusing overwatch, but touching all game (because bnet is one block) and there cant say if overwatch stayed at least playable (probably wiht 100ms latency)...

    And again, the first week we had matters (early october) i didnt mind, (angry yes... but not raging there, juste was patient) because a ddos cant be avoided... but then, you can fight against it, enough to make the game... playable...



    Also i dont think we need a month free compensation (for now... ...) because it is "many" for what we have (for now) and i know compensation are not a thing they legally have to give us.
    BUT fun fact : a company does not only have to do thing because it is "legally forced" ... but maybe i am the only one hoping some morality from SE... But why people are saying they are far better than EA so? dont understand...
    (0)
    Last edited by Aerlana; 10-27-2018 at 03:09 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.
    Quote Originally Posted by GILDREIN View Post
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: [...]these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.