Quote Originally Posted by Erakir View Post
...but I don't see SCH/AST being borderline unplayable without it as things stand with this much ilvl and this much available piety.
I'm in agreement with this sentiment too. Having no Refresh would necessitate a change in playstyle, but shouldn't lead to any wipes in a group with mechanics being dealt with properly unless your groups ilvl is so low that healers need to be spamming those heals to keep up with mechanics.