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    JohnSeal's Avatar
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    Andre Cat
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    Lich
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    Red Mage Lv 60

    SMN and the 4.4 update rotation! :)

    Hi everyone, I am getting addicted again to play SMN, I see after they nerf radiant shield many people prefer Garuda over Ifrit. Contagion it’s pretty appreciated by healers that DPS too xD still Ifrit is suppose to deal more dmg. I am getting crazy now and I still have to decide which magic creature to use. I see two new updates opener over the net, one that uses Garuda all fight and another that use Garuda just in the opener and than swap quickly to Ifrit. So which is better? And especially why? Or in which circumstances?
    I am more propense to opt for Ifrit but I am willing to change mind.
    Please let’s have a kind and polite debate among Summoners, no salt or fighting among you, thanks (:
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    Zerathor's Avatar
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    Jack Cinder
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I believe they're relatively close on output now. If you utilize snapshotting your DoTs and bahamut with contagion garuda is very potent. I believe the main appeal ifrit has is providing more r4 procs. I suppose it's up to preference at this point. Their gap isn't as big anymore especially if contagion is properly utilized.

    If your party ever has another caster though, garuda wins by default.
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    Mansion's Avatar
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Louisoix
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    Sage Lv 100
    Tsundere Imouto updated her guide for 4.4 and does a great job explaining the potency of efficient use of Garuda, you can check that there :
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...y0TrCa0qg/edit
    Hope this helps!
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Talking bout updates... any news bout „AkhMorning.com“ ?...
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    JohnSeal's Avatar
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    Andre Cat
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    Lich
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    Red Mage Lv 60
    Honestly always been a Garuda fan btw yes I read “Tsu Imouto’s” guide but I saw also another.
    Anyway trying few time I just feel the opener to be slower that the one before, probably is just me for a matter of habit idk, plus this rotation seems too much based on contagion in fact everything rotate on allign it with your most powerful skills a bit like the MCH with wildfire.
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    Rurulu Namilu
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Garuda-egi is basically use all your burst after she uses Contagion compared to Ifrit-egi and baiting for Ruin IV procs. You just have to micro-manage Garuda a bit so she will reliably use Contagion every 60 seconds to align with Aetherflow, Bahamut, DWT, and 60s-2m raid buffs.
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    Fried popoto enthusiast.

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    ChaoticCrimson's Avatar
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    Crimson Law
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 100
    This update makes me realize how spoiled I was with Radiant Shield...
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Hello.
    I'd like to know if someone could explain.
    With those new rotation update, I tried playing Garuda, but it happened to be a dps loss for me.
    Does someone know what I could be doing wrong?
    I switched back to only play Ifrit for now since I really was doing something bad with Garuda so...
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Seriously if we could make garuda cast all her skills on CD but Contagion that'd just be amazing
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    @Silver

    while sicfrit provided procs and mirrored dmg randomly u have to either have to micromanage ruda with con right before your burst phases manually or use the petswap opener and try to stay aligned to rudas con-Intervalls/rotation: /
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