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    Let's Talk the Twins and Their End Goals

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    Think about it for just a minute. Have you realized how often Alisae and Alphinaud make plans and do whatever it takes to bring them to fruitition and have the WoL do their bidding? A hypothetical question I pop you. The voice, likely WoD Voice, states Twin Calamities. Could it be related to the Levillaur Twins such as they'll do something really stupid on their own and cause a calamity? I don't think they're mentioning anything related to the other shard that was already destroyed according to the WoD ending in I think it was 3.5. So, what if Alisae and Alphinaud were actual villains and they've been orchastrating everything from the start of the Wagon Ride to your respective City State or Boat Ride if you started in Limsa.

    I'm sure my question is completely out this world, but what if?
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    Thinking about it... Didn't the end of 4.4 show an update on Alphinaud? I don't believe that he showed any sign of distress to The Voice. If that's true that he did not... experience it, why do you think that is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreggit View Post
    Thinking about it... Didn't the end of 4.4 show an update on Alphinaud? I don't believe that he showed any sign of distress to The Voice. If that's true that he did not... experience it, why do you think that is?
    Isn't that a question we all want answered? Unfortunately, I do not have enough of a basis to speculate as to why. It could be he does not have the Echo, but his sister does.
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    I suspect the Calling might be specific to Eorzea and only effected select people currently there (it is the land blessed by gods after all, something special about it), Alphinaud is basically on the other side of the world so it missed him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreggit View Post
    Thinking about it... Didn't the end of 4.4 show an update on Alphinaud? I don't believe that he showed any sign of distress to The Voice. If that's true that he did not... experience it, why do you think that is?
    Alphinaud was in the 4.4 stinger, but to our knowledge did not experience the phenomenon. I've been trying to find a commonality that ties the victims together... all I can gather is that they were major members of the Scions. I was trying to link the voice to the Warriors of Darkness (Arbert), but my old buddy Fenral (can I still call you Waffles?) said the voice wasn't the same as Arbert's JP voice actor, so that's ruled out as well.

    It seems to have been a regional phenomenon targeting the major Scions...

    Now, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was Zodiark - who else but a god has the power to rip out souls? Given His weakened state at present, it would explain why it was so garbled and the phenomenon was restricted to Eorzea... but it's just a guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    who else but a god has the power to rip out souls?
    Clearly Aulus Mal Asina survived.
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    Krile is also on the other side of the world. Wasn't it mentioned that she also experienced the effects of the voice?
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    Hmm, I'm not sure now... I thought it was just mentioned that she'd be updated on the situation since she is faffing about in Eureka, can't recall if its explicitly stated that she also heard the voice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreggit View Post
    If [it's true that Alphinaud didn't hear The Voice], why do you think that is?
    I've got about 5 or 6 possible reasons why The Voice has taken who it's taken (so far), but (unless it's going to start taking others) almost all of them have exceptions already. There's not really complete coverage unless it takes a couple more people.

    The theory with the most coverage as it stands right now (that I've been able to come up with, anyway) is that it's isolating the Warrior of Light in an active capacity; removing the people that they would lean on in the field, right now. The people who would be ready, willing, and able to move alongside them at this exact moment in time. The order would just be net aetherial sensitivity.

    "Only you... Only you..."
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    Well regardless of the implications, at the very least we know that the range, assuming that's a factor, is as far south west as Drybone in Thanalan and as far north east as Rhalgars Reach. Im not sure of distances but thats quite the range. Assuming my reference map is right, and distance is a limiting factor to the reach than I suppose it's make sense that our boy didn't see any side affects. But wouldn't that also mean that the person in question would need to be in some kind of proximity to the area affected if distance was a factor?


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