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    Is doing USD art commissions allowed on FFXIV?

    As my title asks: is it allowed to do art commissions for USD/paypal (not gil, cuz I'm pretty sure that would be classified as RMT) through FFXIV game and forums?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    As my title asks: is it allowed to do art commissions for USD/paypal (not gil, cuz I'm pretty sure that would be classified as RMT) through FFXIV game and forums?
    I do not believe any kind of RMT is allowed on SE's properties due to legalities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    I do not believe any kind of RMT is allowed on SE's properties due to legalities.
    Oh, okay, so it's not just giving gil a RL currency amount type deal (I can't think of the word). Thanks for responding, Hyperia
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    As my title asks: is it allowed to do art commissions for USD/paypal (not gil, cuz I'm pretty sure that would be classified as RMT) through FFXIV game and forums?
    According to TOS, no: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en

    2.3 Commercial Use. You may not exploit the Game for any commercial purpose (for example, advertising any product or service in-game, or use by the operator of a cyber café) without Square Enix's prior written consent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    As my title asks: is it allowed to do art commissions for USD/paypal (not gil, cuz I'm pretty sure that would be classified as RMT) through FFXIV game and forums?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    Keep in mind that also applies to selling or profiting off ANY website by using FFXIV trademarks and copyrights. If someone wants to sell art commissions, just advertise that you do art comissions, "even your avatar/toon from a MMORPG" and just include that in your social media profiles. You could also just start a Patreon and go "suggest something to draw" at some tier and people can suggest whatever.

    Just don't do it inside the game because regardless of any ToS, if one person does it, then everyone else will try it, and because the game is not a safe way to do commissions, players will be defrauded. That's the entire reason why all RMT is bad, as the fraud risk is extreme. To give you an idea, let's say you say you'll do a comission for someone, and then because someone recognizes your character from the forum and then pretends to be you, on another server, and then runs off with a players money, it comes back to you.

    For advertising on the forum, again that ToS item is meant to prevent people from creating threads to advertise an unsanctioned service and flooding the forum with everyone else who wants to offer something similar. Just draw a mini-comic for your sig, and link it to your social media profile or your art site.
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    Sounds like damage meter rules. Commonly accepted. Don't ask. Don't tell!

    You can always pull a grocery store and give out free samples while inciting potential customers to ask for more than a taste.

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    I also find social media communities on Discord and Facebook to be a good place to advertise stuff. There's lots of server-specific groups you can join and hawk your wares, or inquire about services. I used to know someone who did art for fantasias all the time.
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    Selling commissions for IRL money isn't RMT.
    Yes, you're trading real money in this transaction, but it's not for ingame items or currency. So on that regards you're clear.

    Profiting off the game however, as others have said, is technically against the ToS.
    But this seems to be in the same regards that parsing is technically against the ToS.

    Honestly you'll be fine.

    D...do you need a customer? I'm actually seeking something unrelated!
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    http://king.canadane.com

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    Devian Art is filled to the brim with art based off various games including this one where you can buy prints, posters and such.

    I wouldn't worry to much about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Selling commissions for IRL money isn't RMT.
    yep ! RMT = real money against in game currency/service.


    For the art, we are more on copyright and similar shits. And to answer.
    Nintendo are probably the top world to block any "fanmade" thing from what they own. And they cant stop fan art (let's see browsette :-° )

    If SE begins to strike on those things, there will be a really hard backfire...


    So, real answer : forbidden.
    Fact : you can.
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    As an actual professional artist, let me just weigh my experience and thoughts on this.

    Selling fan art that has been made solely by yourself isn't considered RMT, however, there are many grey areas and lines that you can cross and ones where you shouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. I would be careful about advertising such things on the official forums themselves through a new topic/thread simply because it is a reportable thing and could be considered advertising or spam if someone was really petty enough. However, that being said, there's nothing against the rules as far as I am aware of that you can't advertise your tumblr or DeviantART page through your own signature. So, that is probably going to be the best way you could advertise your freelancing without someone's jimmies getting rustled over it (so long as your link doesn't contain a virus or unsavory images like pornography).

    Now, usually creating fan art grants you the Creative Commons License in which you have sole ownership and trademark over what you yourself has created. Still, license or not, that won't stop art thieves or copycats from stealing your hard work. Depending on what country the thief originated from and depending on their....personality....usually once something is stolen there's very little you can do about it besides asking them politely to NOT do it. I mean, you could try to sue them, but the costs of legal action is probably not worth it. That's one of the sadder parts of freelancing your art and posting it on the internet since a lot of people think anything on Google is fair game to copy and steal as their own (it's not, don't do it).

    Regarding the trademark and infringement topics, in order for someone to claim that what they make is truly fan art and no where near the capacity of the original, it has to CLEARLY look like your own self-made style with various tweaks, etc. Tracing original art is NOT fan art, it's stealing. I don't care how much time and effort it took you to trace over that trademarked and already existing character, it's not your own art. If it looks anywhere exact or close enough towards the original. You stole it, plain and simple. I don't care if you changed the hair color or eye color, or whatever, it's still stolen work and it's rude.

    Companies that I have learned over the years to stay away from because they do not take kindly towards anything and will jump at you the first chance they get are Marvel and Disney. Other companies like Nike, Apple, etc don't really take kindly towards you using their logos without permission either, but that's an entirely different part of the field and subject matter away from fanart.

    The bottom line is to just be smart about it. You know when you've done something wrong or stole something. You know when you've made something too close towards someone else's work. It's fine to use other artists as inspiration and role models, but those artists don't want you to copy their styles exactly either. And it's good to know that not everything you find on tumblr, Google, Instagram, pinterest, and other social media are fair game to use without someone's permission. References are okay, but that's all they should stay as, as references...and your final product should not look perfectly too close towards the reference pieces.
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