Petition To Expand Character Creator

[Iscah]

Another idea is allowing for interracial characters. F'lhaminn is clearly a mix between the Seekers of the Sun and Keepers of the Moon as seen by her name and eyes.

These aren't *really* interracial characters, at a character-creator level. F'lhaminn is 100% a Moonkeeper NPC model with a name that suggests the person F'lhaminn must be part-Sunseeker. There's nothing stopping a player from doing the exact same thing right now.

Hilda is a Midlander NPC (you can see it from her body size and emotes) who has been customised to have a unique face with pointed ears as part of it.

Essentially she's the inverse of some of the Garlean characters (eg. Nero, Lucia, Maxima) who are technically Elezen NPCs with modified faces and rounded ears.

[MsQi]

These aren't *really* interracial characters, at a character-creator level. F'lhaminn is 100% a Moonkeeper NPC model with a name that suggests the person F'lhaminn must be part-Sunseeker. There's nothing stopping a player from doing the exact same thing right now.

Hilda is a Midlander NPC (you can see it from her body size and emotes) who has been customised to have a unique face with pointed ears as part of it.

Essentially she's the inverse of some of the Garlean characters (eg. Nero, Lucia, Maxima) who are technically Elezen NPCs with modified faces and rounded ears.

You basically supported her point. F'lhaminn proves that from a lore standpoint there is mixing. Add to that the little girl I mentioned that is obviously a mixture. You can't currently put Elezen ears on a midlander nor vice versa. Thank you for your support.

[Iscah]

You basically supported her point. F'lhaminn proves that from a lore standpoint there is mixing. Add to that the little girl I mentioned that is obviously a mixture. You can't currently put Elezen ears on a midlander nor vice versa. Thank you for your support.

From a lore standpoint? Yes. But that doesn't add anything to the character creator other than stopping you from using the "generate random name" button. So I'm not sure how she is relevant to "ways they could expand the options". I see it as proof that they don't think they need to in this case.

Also I'm not 100% sure but I think there may be only one character model for child-Miqo'te, and it has the fangs? I haven't confirmed it myself, but it got brought up in the Lore forum when we were discussing the Moonfire Faire, and someone else said that they all have the fangs regardless of their clan. (We've seen a few other Sunseeker kids around, like T'kebbe in Idyllshire.)

Also yes, if they were able to add any kind of new options they could choose to implement "put elf ears on your Hyur". But for now, as far as I can tell, Hilda isn't anything special in terms of the NPC build - it is a standard Midlander model (as produced by the character creator) with a unique customised face (a developer-only extra feature, used for many major NPCs). I'm guessing that the ears are not an "option" for them, ie. something they turn on or off when building the character, it's just built into the custom face and overrides the default ears.

[SenorPatty]

If I had to work with what the devs are limited to, then I'd like to request additional presets. Skin color change should be added to aesthetician and lastly, body tattoos could be new preset feature as well.

[Ilan]

But the servers can't handle it!

[MicahZerrshia]

But the servers can't handle it!

You cannot expect a small, indie company with such severely limited resources like SE to have a server that could handle any sort of load in 2018. I mean there are already only a handful of devs working their fingers to the bone trying to get the patches out with such a wide variety of unique content. And the fact that we pay so little already between all these services with the sub, extra retainers, the cash shop and the new app, its like they are giving the game away for free! What more can we expect from them? Yoshida has been nothing but transparent about everything since the game launched. At least their commitment to communicating with the player base is still strong. Pay attn. there is only so much they can do!

[Darkplanet]

yea I'm all for an updated character creator. I think a sliders for various body parts and/or weight is fine to a certain extent, armor is programmed and designed to match body types, there's a reason the same chest piece can work on a roe and a lala. So weight sliders/butt sliders, arms, head, whatever is reasonable. Also added facial features is cool, also maybe body tattoos.


and I say this everywhere, but hair length slider plz, and yea I know I know clipping, but I really don't care, clipping will always be an issue with or without a hair length slider. Or just longer hairstyles, that aren't all shy of going past the mid-back. the fact npc characters, but not pc, get to have butt length hair infuriates me to no end lol

[Violet_Galaxy]

I really would just like more faces. I get weirded out every time I see another person with my face. Even worse when that other person has your face AND your hairstyle (only happened once). And for crying out loud, please let different races wear each others clothes. I don't get why that doesn't exist already and shouldn't (I think anyway) be hard to implement. I would also like to see facial hair options for players who roll male in this game. Too many squeaky clean looking dudes out there.

[Melichoir]

I suppose if they were to do it (which wouldnt be completely game breaking, but must take into consideration how armor/gear is afflicted by it), the following things SHOULD be manageable without too much alteration to the current engine:

1) More Face options - Not just faces themselves, but variable components of the face too. Doubling what they have would go a long way in helping promote a different look.
2) Broader height ranges - Height sliders should be a bit broader. As it is now, with some races, the height slider does not actually give you that much difference.
3) Muscularity sliders - All races should have this (including Lalafells)
4) Unlocked attributes that dont make sense locked - This is more specific to AuRa and their horns. You should be able to choose horns independently of Face
5) Colorization of certain aspects - Again, more towards Aura, but Scales should have a color range you can choose from. The current Blue-Black, and Off-White color palettes actually limit what skin tones you can use, due to certain skins looking horrendous with those colors.
6) (A controversial one) Actually make the "chest" slider for Lalafells represent something or remove it outright - Ive mentioned in other threads that Im not 100% a fan of some of the aesthetics of Lalas in general, but there are issues with the design of the race that should be addressed. The Chest slider, for whatever purpose, exists on female lala but has no actual 'impact on their appearance. I can speculate that the reason has to do with the idea that they dont want to get hit with 'sexualization' issues. However, since we all know thats a half measure considering the glamour and emotes possible in game as it is, its kind of a moot point. Furthermore, Lala's by design have very little distinction between males and females. While I get that theres more to girls than chest assets, it is a very easy short hand to differentiate between men and women, and also may help bust some preconceived notions about Lalas being too "kid like". Should they not adjust it, they should remove it in favor of other sliders to help differentiation between the sexes or an extra customization option for Lalas in general. Either/or is fine, but they need to either own the slider or remove, and not have some vestigial customization that amounts to nothing.
7) Scars and other minor aspects - All races have access to All Scars and/or any other aspects (beauty marks as an example). Scars should be available not only for Face, but also Body.
8) Facial tattoos - You should be able to select multiple at the same time.

Things to be changed outside of character editor:

These are facets that can help with customization but dont require implementation to the character editor itself. Basically, they should be aquired VIA MGP at GoldSaucer or through POTD/HoH or Achievements

1) Unlock glamour that alters between races - Things like the hempen camise as an immediate example should be available to all races. The 'start' race should either receive it through a quest or by default, but should be able to aquire the other ones
2) Unlock Emotes based on Race - Any major emote variation based on race should be acquirable.
3) Unlock Hairstyles - Any hairstyles that are race specific should be free for the start race you have, but the others have to be unlocked
4) Eye Colors and Hair Colors - New eye and hair colors should be acquired via GS
5) New tattoos should be acquired via Gold Saucer
6) Body Tattoos - Tattoo Artist Unlocked Via GS, with a base set available and additional Tattoos unlocked via MGP or other sources
7) Piercings - Body and Face piercings could be unlocked along with Tattoos and additional ones acquired via MGP or other sources

I think these kind of changes, while not the exacts of everyone here, would be broadly accepted as a decent step and be well received without making huge alterations to the engine itself.

[Zerophiliac]

I can only hope! I've been hoping for something like this for so long. I know it isn't minor, but a lot of my enjoyment comes from making different characters lol.