Dev Team, you screwed up.

[HyperiusUltima]

Stating that a job will have limits on DF and what-not is fine, but going so far as to make it to a point where you MUST do DF content just to get a spell? That’s very dumb. I was expecting an expanded overworld experience, not one where over half the spells have to be found via Duties. Let alone, the design for it’s damage output is EXTREMELY lackluster. 1000 Needles is all you spam for a majority of things, until you get Ram’s Voice. Then it becomes that. It’s very silly that all of this doesn’t create a fun, unique job.

If you really want to save face, you need to consider how BLU’s Progression flows in all zones. There’s also the problem with Lv 70s powerboosting BLU to 50 in a matter of Minutes. To get rid of the exploit, a simple solution is to implement Eureka’s Party system where Lv Range actually matters. As for progression, at the least try to direct people with better hints rather than simply stating an area. Heck, freaking quote hints are fun enough to point someone in the right direction like a riddle.

[Shirolumi]

I am only going to say that the ones boosting are not in a party with the BLU so that wouldn't matter really. As for the rest, I just think BLU should've been available to do more content really.

[BioDio]

It's already easy the way it is regarding the hints, since, when comparing to other MMO's, areas in FF14 are rather small, and only a handful of enemies in it have actual skills. When the hint said X zone, I was like "It can only be this mob, since anything else just Auto Attacks", I went there, and yeah, there you go.

Dungeons are even easier since you just need to go to the dungeon and do it.

More than the place you can get the spell is bluntly telling you who gives you the spell, so, it takes a bit out of the fun and reward of actually finding it. If you want to know where the spell is, you can find that online already, but I don't think that's what Blue Mage should be played like.

And speaking in dungeons, I like the versatility of Blue Mage, has a nice potential to have nice runs in the next expansion. Also, awesome to bring back that old school feeling of talking to people and create a group to go to a dungeon. But I understand if nowadays people don't enjoy that.

[wereotter]

I don't think you're entirely wrong here. Water Cannon has a low potency even just compared to base spells of other jobs at that level. Fire, for example, is 180 potency. Stone has a potency of 140. Add to that blue mage weapons have no weapon damage and no stats, and you have an issue where killing mobs in the field at your level takes a lot of casts of that spell. So I do think that blue mage spell potencies might need a buff (though I'm still only at level 35, so I'm holding final judgment until I get higher level and fully geared out)

As far as dungeons, I do share the concern. Right now finding parties to go through them to learn spells isn't too bad since so many people are wanting to do the same, but imagine someone picking up the job as a new player in a year from now. If you can't use DF to try and learn all these abilities, you're going to have trouble trying to get the spells you need, especially when so many of them come from dungeons and trials.

[Huntrss]

Basically The issue is that they want Blue mages to be the most social Job in the game. you have to talk to other players to group with Them to get spells, Group with them to Do Dungeons, Raids and help you kill the mob. At level 50 you be going to tons of DF stuff or you simply will not be able to do The only thing Blue mages have you be lock out. these spells are Required for this to unlock. you don't have them you can't go in.

[Kalise]

Yeah...

"This class is designed for solo play"

"The class is restricted from party play because they wouldn't work very well in a party environment"

*Majority of the class is literally party play*

SOUND LOGIC.

[GrenGarm]

I don't understand what they were thinking.

You have a job that can't join duties and can't level to max -- so LET IT be overpowered enough to run the old dungeons solo. What would be the harm? If you're going to put half the spells in dungeons, why make us beg other players to join? There's no good reason for ANY of this!

[SWB]

They definitely could have spent a lot less time on a job that could be included in party content while also keeping the majority of spells.

[Grimoire-M]

To be honest Mighty Guard, White Wind, and Sticky Tongue are the only reasons it's limited from regular duty finder content. It all combines to enable some pretty broken tanking and healing in a single character, albeit one that would eventually be absolutely screwed in an actual raid environment given how much you rely on your own HP being full to utilize it for AoE. A pair of BLU with 6 DPS (ideally with a RDM/BRD among them) would be the best comp possible off of that utility alone, barring specific requirements in a fight like tank swaps and Chardybois.

The biggest problem to me is all the good DPS spells are level 50 locked, and despite what SE said about 'not needing a weapon' you actually don't get enough INT from levelling gear to warrant using any of your normal dps spells until 50. Off Guard is great but you have nothing good to use it on other than Final Sting, which along with Bristle does let you at least oneshot instance mobs solo at a normal level, but it's complete garbage compared to just getting 1000 needles asap off of a levequest and using that plus the aforementioned White Wind/Mighty Guard plus the odd CC spells to power all the way to 50 instead.

Which still pales in comparison to simply tagging mobs while your level 70 friends do all the work for you.

Why bother with the job at all if it's not going to be usable? Social play? In my experience it's been the usual mess that a new job offers, only people are raging about killing mobs that don't have an alternative option available instead of infinite DF queues.

Aesthetically and thematically there are at least some hits here. Hell, I don't even have a problem with the Learn mechanic (Getting hit by the skill you're after should just guarantee you get it if you live tbh). Otherwise, I don't see why we couldn't have gotten a normal job instead. This job needs to deal appropriate damage across all levels and while it has some tools to do that, it needs more of a push, ideally by using the job quests to give you weapon upgrades. I'm fine with 1000 needles cheese but getting to that point on your own just feels awful.

[silentwindfr]

I don't think you're entirely wrong here. Water Cannon has a low potency even just compared to base spells of other jobs at that level. Fire, for example, is 180 potency. Stone has a potency of 140. Add to that blue mage weapons have no weapon damage and no stats, and you have an issue where killing mobs in the field at your level takes a lot of casts of that spell. So I do think that blue mage spell potencies might need a buff (though I'm still only at level 35, so I'm holding final judgment until I get higher level and fully geared out)

As far as dungeons, I do share the concern. Right now finding parties to go through them to learn spells isn't too bad since so many people are wanting to do the same, but imagine someone picking up the job as a new player in a year from now. If you can't use DF to try and learn all these abilities, you're going to have trouble trying to get the spells you need, especially when so many of them come from dungeons and trials.

i'm 46 and i feel the same, the damage of water cannon is ridicule.... 200 with off guard, if you use britle and peculiar light it can reach almost 400 damage.... on level 37 monster it take more of 10 cast for kill it....