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    Burningskull's Avatar
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    Markov Dracul
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    So how can SE make SMN better?

    Now that we have BLU and it's a better SMN than SMN is... How could they make SMN more of a SMN?
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Just to clarify, we're only talking thematically, right? Like, it's not a bad job at all; it's just not a real SMN?

    Change most of the personal attacks to various Call abilities that poof a primal-egi or demi-primal into existance just for a moment to perform the attack animation. Yeah, they can keep a few attacks for themselves, but really I think the whole SMN theme could be satisfied by just renaming and reanimating most of the attacks to be one-off summon abilities.

    In particular, Ruin, the spammable filler attack, should be "Call", and select at random the demi- or -egi form of any primal they've defeated, to perform a simple attack. So instead of Ruin-Ruin-Ruin maybe you get Call Ramuh-egi, Call Leviathan-egi, Call Demi-GKMMXII (again, randomly selected, all the same action button).
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    Last edited by Rongway; 01-21-2019 at 09:32 AM.

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    Haxaan Shivar
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Just to clarify, we're only talking thematically, right? Like, it's not a bad job at all; it's just not a real SMN?

    Change most of the personal attacks to various Call abilities that poof a primal-egi or demi-primal into existance just for a moment to perform the attack animation. Yeah, they can keep a few attacks for themselves, but really I think the whole SMN theme could be satisfied by just renaming and reanimating most of the attacks to be one-off summon abilities.

    In particular, Ruin, the spammable filler attack, should be "Call", and select at random the demi- or -egi form of any primal they've defeated, to perform a simple attack. So instead of Ruin-Ruin-Ruin maybe you get Call Ramuh-egi, Call Leviathan-egi, Call Demi-GKMMXII (again, randomly selected, all the same action button).
    Pretty much this
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    My heart did a little frowny face when I saw that a non-job was getting levi, shiva, and ramuh spells before me.
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    Waira Amarilla
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    I didn't even think of that till now; that is quite the kick to the face. Hopefully SE will finally get off their Bahamut theme obsession and start giving SMN more egi and demi egi to utilize.

    Don't get me wrong though; I LOVE my demi Bahamut and Bahamut Trance. But they could have at least given us a new Elder Primal trance at least for Stormsblood. Been wanting something maybe connected to the Warring Triad or Odin for the longest time since, like Bahamut lore-wise, they both have giant reserves of aether SMN could utilize to summon them in some shape or form.
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Less focus on Bahamut, more focus on literally every other primal.
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    Now that we have BLU and it's a better SMN than SMN is... How could they make SMN more of a SMN?
    SMN is fine. The only real change it needs is to Aetherflow usage...which granted for me is usually because I fat finger it, or muscle-memory it when it would be otherwise wasted. -____-;
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    New egi glamours. Gimme a Ravana or Zurvan or Susano over Ifrit any day.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Sephirot Egi when?
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    I'm gonna be the odd man out but I like SMN as it is and am curious on how the are gonns expand upon it in 5.0. If BLU wasn't a gimmick class and served a point in endgsme and not just a time filler, I might have a slightly different opinion.
    Not to mention the battle team doesn't seem to have a creative bone in their bodies, i rather not do anything too unique and break the job
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    Last edited by zcrash970; 01-21-2019 at 10:44 AM.
    I'm just some guy...

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