Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
I wonder why people using the "you don't need it" argument conveniently forget only a minute fraction of raiders actually need that ilvl?
Because if you apply it honestly to the whole playerbase, it falls apart.
Then by this logic relic weapon doesn't need to be the same strength as raid weapons, either. If raiders don't need the extra item level than neither do non-raiders, right?

If people desire a meaningful reward for grinding then you best participate in meaningful content. AFK content simply shouldn't carry the same reward as challenging content. Pretty much the end of the story bro.

That being, as another poster alluded to, perhaps they should have multiple paths for completing relic quests. Maybe Eureka could take you so far but to get further you'd have to do extremes and/or savage until the next catch-up patch. Or make it possible to skip Eureka (or equivalent future steps) by completing the raids or whatever. I'd be down with something like that.