Make relics have the same iLVL as the Raid weapons and released at the same time

[Lumis_Arvalo]

Apparently, the players going into Pagos on release just weren't crazy enough, seeing as they didn't get their weapons "in a few days".!

I know a number of people who had their first elemental weapon within a week of Pagos dropping. I'll agree that's not the "norm", but let's not act like these people don't exist.

Bottom line is that the tomestome weapon is higher ilevel because it takes 7 weeks of real-world time for a non-raider to get for a single class (which can't be circumvented without raiding), while the relic weapon can theoretically be obtained by a non-raider very quickly and at their own pace. Does the relic require more effort put into it to get? Absolutely, but the time-gating is the big factor here as the tomestone weapon is intended to be a long-term carrot-on-the-stick for non-raiders that keeps them subbed.

I suggest that the final requirement in obtaining the fully upgraded Relic for it to be BiS (on top of the crazy grinding) should be having to trade in the highest ilvl raid weapon, amongst other things. That way you wont be able to skip the toughest end game material.

So you want a weapon that was designed to be for casual players to grind out over time to be gated behind items that come from raid content, and thus be for raiders? That's... really dumb. That's not what the relic is supposed to be in this game. If that's how it was in FFXI and you enjoyed that, then go back to FFXI. That system sounds terrible for a game like this.