Make relics have the same iLVL as the Raid weapons and released at the same time

[RyoXander]

No. If you want FFXI mechanics, go play FFXI. That's not this game, and that's not what relics should be in this game.

People really need to stop trying to jam FFXI's mechanics into this game. "This game should be FFXI-2" is exactly why Eureka was developed and why it sucks so bad.

I never mentioned anything about wanting this game to be exactly like FFXI so calm down. However this game does need improving in some ways which FFXI happened to do better. The Relic weapon system was one of them. Until the last few years where the game became excessively easy, Relic weapons were extremely rare to find. That's how they should be. Meant for only the most dedicated of players to obtain.

I suggest that the final requirement in obtaining the fully upgraded Relic for it to be BiS (on top of the crazy grinding) should be having to trade in the highest ilvl raid weapon, amongst other things. That way you wont be able to skip the toughest end game material.

Doing so will allow you to continuously work towards your relic after every patch and at the end, you will have a weapon that is far stronger than any other option because it will be the culmination of years worth of effort.

[Lastelli]

I suggest that the final requirement in obtaining the fully upgraded Relic for it to be BiS (on top of the crazy grinding) should be having to trade in the highest ilvl raid weapon, amongst other things. That way you wont be able to skip the toughest end game material.

I would be totally favorable to a relic that requires a very light grind, but also requires to complete the hardest content in the game. In that case, there wouldn't be anything wrong with a BiS relic. Unfortunately, the dev team wants the relic to be locked behind content that anyone can easily clear, so that's not going to happen.

[Lumis_Arvalo]

I would be totally favorable to a relic that requires a very light grind, but also requires to complete the hardest content in the game. In that case, there wouldn't be anything wrong with a BiS relic. Unfortunately, the dev team wants the relic to be locked behind content that anyone can easily clear, so that's not going to happen.

Of course they do, because they want casual players to keep playing their game so they stay subbed longer.

Do people just not understand where the money in the MMO markets is nowadays?

[Lastelli]

Of course they do, because they want casual players to keep playing their game so they stay subbed longer.

Do people just not understand where the money in the MMO markets is nowadays?

I never said they're wrong. I perfectly understand why they do that. Still, I believe their system has a lot of room for improvement.

[Tint]

I would be totally favorable to a relic that requires a very light grind, but also requires to complete the hardest content in the game. In that case, there wouldn't be anything wrong with a BiS relic. Unfortunately, the dev team wants the relic to be locked behind content that anyone can easily clear, so that's not going to happen.

Where is even the point in locking all the stuff behind raiding?

This game already has Ex trail weapons, savage raid weapons, ultimate raid weapons and you get the upgrade token for the tomestone weapon also from the savage raid (until they put in in the 24 man raid in a few months).

Isn't that enough weapons locked behind harder content? There really should be other options to get weapons too, and the relic is one of these options and should not be taken away.